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p.2 #1 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

mfrank999 wrote:
I also like to shoot polo, jumpers (horses), and other action sports.
Sometimes I do amateur model shoots.
Would you still recommend the 7100??

Sure would. It's the low light stuff FX excels at...
concerts/events/rodeo under the lights/dusk & dawn wildlife/weddings etc.
Everything you mentioned I can shoot with my ancient D2Xs

with the
new sensor and features of the D7100 you should absolutely kill it.

Feb 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM

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p.2 #2 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Thanks for your expertise.

Feb 23, 2013 at 10:21 PM

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p.2 #3 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Great set Will. Love how the 200 can melt a background even with the TC attached. It's one lens that I will never part with.

Feb 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM

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p.2 #4 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Trenchmonkey,

I'm seriously thinking of getting this chubby fatboy and have two questions. Could you share your experience?

How do you carry the lens (mounted)? I'd love to carry it in a camera bag that will also house a 24-70/2.8 plus a fast prime (35/1.4 or 85/1.4) and a flash with a gripped D800. What backpack would you suggest?

You said you usually handhold it. Do you also use a monopod? If so, what monopod/head combo would you use?

Thanks. Looking forward to shooting with the fatboy!

Feb 24, 2013 at 02:22 AM

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RKnecht wrote:
Great set Will. Love how the 200 can melt a background even with the TC attached. It's one lens that I will never part with.

Hey, Rich...thanks a lot. It really is a treat to shoot with one, makes us look good!

Feb 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM

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p.2 #6 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Frederico wrote:
Trenchmonkey,

I'm seriously thinking of getting this chubby fatboy and have two questions. Could you share your experience?

How do you carry the lens (mounted)? I'd love to carry it in a camera bag that will also house a 24-70/2.8 plus a fast prime (35/1.4 or 85/1.4) and a flash with a gripped D800. What backpack would you suggest?

You said you usually handhold it. Do you also use a monopod? If so, what monopod/head combo would you use?

Thanks. Looking forward to shooting with the fatboy!

My experiences are probably different than most. I carry the rig ready to rock by the BushHawk handle.
Any "extra" gear I'm bringing goes in my TT Airport Antidote backpack. I handhold Chubby 90% of the time,
but for sessions lasting more than an hour or so I'll use a Berlebach model 113 monopod. It's got a tilt head
and I added a Kirk QR clamp. Loosen the tripod ring and you're ready for just about anything. Good luck.

Feb 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

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p.2 #7 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

mfrank999 wrote:
Thanks for your expertise.

Feb 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

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p.2 #8 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

This is one of my 'long lens" setups along with 300/f4 AFS and 1.7 TC. I posted this in another forum - check out the crazy bokeh it produced - D800 DX mode

Feb 26, 2013 at 06:31 PM

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p.2 #9 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Hey Tm,
Have you any experience with the nikon 70-200 vr using the 1.4 converter for BIF or action shots.
I am thinking of replacing my 300mm f4 with that combo. It would give me 420mm vs. 450mm. at the long end.
Most of the BIF I do are not that far away and the new combo would give me more flexibility as long as I do not lose image quality. I would also use it for jumpers, (horses) polo etc. I would use it with the new 7100.
What do you think?
Would love to see photos of this combo.
Thanks

Feb 26, 2013 at 07:35 PM

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p.2 #10 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

TM, although I am out in manual land I do peek into your threads to see your cool BIF shots with AF lenses.

What species is that bird in the first image?

Samy

trenchmonkey wrote:
Howdy, shooters! I'd been using the D7K 300 f4 w/wo TC-17E II for my good light BIF set-up...
and I thought I'd try out the title combo on that paltry 4 fps D800.

Knowing full well I have
the 1.2/1.5 modes at my disposal, for a blistering 5 and 6 fps respectively...I took the gamble.
I've shot this before with the likes of the D3/D700 but any cropping and the files soon fell apart.
IIRC I wasn't completely thrilled with anything over ~40 yds so I made it a point to seek out the
action from 75 yds plus. These are shot in FX and cropped like a 'monkey

Yes, handheld with
my trusty B'Hawk and presented for your perusal otherwise SOOC. A workout that DELIVERS.

Feb 26, 2013 at 09:26 PM

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saph wrote:
TM, although I am out in manual land I do peek into your threads to see your cool BIF shots with AF lenses.

What species is that bird in the first image?

Samy

Greater Sandhill Crane, Samy. Many thanks for lookin' in!

Feb 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

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p.2 #12 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

mfrank999 wrote:
Hey Tm,
Have you any experience with the nikon 70-200 vr using the 1.4 converter for BIF or action shots.
I am thinking of replacing my 300mm f4 with that combo. It would give me 420mm vs. 450mm. at the long end.
Most of the BIF I do are not that far away and the new combo would give me more flexibility as long as I do not lose image quality. I would also use it for jumpers, (horses) polo etc. I would use it with the new 7100.
What do you think?
Would love to see photos of this combo.
Thanks

Sure do, used that combo for rodeo last year with the D7K before going to the Sig 120-300 f2.8
Needed f2.8 when the lights came up. With the D7100's extra MP's you might get by croppin' the
70-200 naked for your sports stuff. Throw the TC on for when you're shootin' the BIF. I'll look for
some samples after awhile...

Feb 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

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p.2 #13 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Again thanks for you info.

Feb 27, 2013 at 12:31 AM

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p.2 #14 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

As far as detail for BIF..ehhh.From 75 yards though.Pretty damn impressive.Get some up from 35 yards or so.This lens has always intrigued me.More so with the D800. Doug M

Feb 27, 2013 at 01:36 AM

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p.2 #15 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

TM, as usual when you post the smart crowd listens. You make my interest grow for the 200 f2 with those great shots. Is it an easy choice for you to pick the 200 f2 over the 300 f2.8? I just can't make up my mind for a D4 mate. Speed is always good as I love wildlife in those last minutes of light, and the BB I shoot is sometimes in dungeons. But dang, shooting at f2 has to give you a pretty thin slice depth of field in focus. And, while speed is king, reach is always a challenge on a FF trying to shoot wildlife.
Always interested in your thoughts!
Greg

Feb 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM

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p.2 #16 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Doug Maclean wrote:
As far as detail for BIF..ehhh.From 75 yards though.Pretty damn impressive.Get some up from 35 yards or so.This lens has always intrigued me.More so with the D800. Doug M

Hiya, Doug. Even the 70-200 VR II/TC-20E III is a great combo ~35 yds...feather smearing beyond 40 however.

The D800 really brings out the potential of the 200 and TC's, truly a joy to shoot. One from yesterday....

NIKON D800 400 mm f/5.0 1/2500 sec 400 ISO -0.7 EV

Feb 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM

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p.2 #17 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

rxgolf wrote:
TM, as usual when you post the smart crowd listens. You make my interest grow for the 200 f2 with those great shots. Is it an easy choice for you to pick the 200 f2 over the 300 f2.8? I just can't make up my mind for a D4 mate. Speed is always good as I love wildlife in those last minutes of light, and the BB I shoot is sometimes in dungeons. But dang, shooting at f2 has to give you a pretty thin slice depth of field in focus. And, while speed is king, reach is always a challenge on a FF trying to shoot wildlife.
Always interested in your thoughts!
Greg

Mornin' Greg. Both would be my choice in a better economy.

I've had to make this decision a couple of times
over the last 4 yrs. The 300 w/TC-14E II was my favorite BIF combination but I needed f2 for rodeo under the lights
so I've relegated the 200 f2 as my "one size fits all" supertele. I have the 300 f4 that's my lightweight rig w/TC-17E II
for FX BIF and it's pretty impressive (in good light)...and the D800 lets you crop like a 'monkey w/out losin' much.

PS. as for DOF concerns...using the 200 f2/TC's at distance, there's PLENTY to get your subject and still cream the BG.
More to think about: the 300 is easier to handhold for any length of time...better balanced. The 200 AF is faster

Feb 27, 2013 at 12:42 PM

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p.2 #18 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

To jbailey930...
John, why strip the Exif

and how come SO much noise in those 2 shots

Feb 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM

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p.2 #19 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Trenchmonkey,

Another OT question. What is the front diameter of the lens hood?

Feb 27, 2013 at 01:35 PM

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p.2 #20 · 200 f2 w/TC-20E III new BIF rig?

Frederico wrote:
Trenchmonkey,

Another OT question. What is the front diameter of the lens hood?

Also the back diameter, thanks.

Feb 27, 2013 at 01:38 PM

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