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1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

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p.3 #1 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

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I will probably never do anything with video, I am clueless about how to process, store or display it and have no real desire for it. How do you print a video

It's pretty amazing and for some things it simply fits better than stills. Be careful though, lest you get hopelessly sucked in too deep!

Feb 14, 2013 at 01:26 AM

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p.3 #2 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

Count me in as old school with arthritis challenges, but there is nothing like the feel of the 1D camera body while pursuing photography for personal satisfaction. I have tried the 5D mark ll and quickly sold the camera and secured a Mark lllDS to accompany my wonderful Mark lll. Love the ability to share batteries and menu similarities...simple is good at this age and the faster I can define and establish a comfort zone the more I enjoy capturing photo opportunities whether they be studio or field defined.

Feb 14, 2013 at 03:34 PM

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p.3 #3 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

skibum5 wrote:
ben egbert wrote:

I will probably never do anything with video, I am clueless about how to process, store or display it and have no real desire for it. How do you print a video

It's pretty amazing and for some things it simply fits better than stills. Be careful though, lest you get hopelessly sucked in too deep!

I read the video chapter last night and could not figure it out. I did what it said but heard no shutter and when finished saw no file or playback option. Not sure I am interested enough to wade though it.

Feb 14, 2013 at 04:46 PM

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p.3 #4 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

Shhboom wrote:
Count me in as old school with arthritis challenges, but there is nothing like the feel of the 1D camera body while pursuing photography for personal satisfaction. I have tried the 5D mark ll and quickly sold the camera and secured a Mark lllDS to accompany my wonderful Mark lll. Love the ability to share batteries and menu similarities...simple is good at this age and the faster I can define and establish a comfort zone the more I enjoy capturing photo opportunities whether they be studio or field defined.

But now that menu is shared between 1Dx and the 5D III

Feb 14, 2013 at 04:52 PM

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p.3 #5 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

Mixed emotions on menus. I really like the Q button thingy on the 5D3, seeing the main choices on the LCD is great. I am still pushing the wrong button for enlarging the image on the LCD, but will eventually get used to it. I think I may eventually prefer the 5D3 method of engaging AEF and for sure prefer the c1,2,3 options over selecting files stored in mymenu.

But I really hate the uncertainty about which card is active. I may start leaving one card out so I know which is active. It was always the SD card on the 1DS3. Multiple cards was never of much interest to me anyway.

I do need to understand how the multiple exposure option works. It appears like it could make an HDR raw but I have not figured it out yet.

Feb 14, 2013 at 05:15 PM

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p.3 #6 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

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I do need to understand how the multiple exposure option works. It appears like it could make an HDR raw but I have not figured it out yet.

There is a video tutorial on this works for the 1DX, with the menus being similar it should be the same for the 5DIII.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1119114

Feb 14, 2013 at 05:19 PM

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p.3 #7 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

Sunny Sra wrote:
ben egbert wrote:

I do need to understand how the multiple exposure option works. It appears like it could make an HDR raw but I have not figured it out yet.

There is a video tutorial on this works for the 1DX, with the menus being similar it should be the same for the 5DIII.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1119114

Thanks for the link, I will watch them for sure but probably still read the manual with camera in hand.

Edit, watched the multiple exposure video. I was thinking HDR and it may be possible but it is more like film days with multiple images stacked into one. Great clear and quick presentation. I want to watch the rest. Be sure to click on the arrows, there are more videos than first meets the eye.

Feb 14, 2013 at 06:04 PM

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p.3 #8 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

ben egbert wrote:
Mixed emotions on menus. I really like the Q button thingy on the 5D3, seeing the main choices on the LCD is great. I am still pushing the wrong button for enlarging the image on the LCD, but will eventually get used to it. I think I may eventually prefer the 5D3 method of engaging AEF and for sure prefer the c1,2,3 options over selecting files stored in mymenu.

But I really hate the uncertainty about which card is active. I may start leaving one card out so I know which is active. It was always the SD card on the 1DS3. Multiple cards was never of much interest to me anyway.

I do need to understand how the multiple exposure option works. It appears like it could make an HDR raw but I have not figured it out yet.

You can program SET to instantly jump to 100% view and back, ULTRA handy.

Feb 14, 2013 at 08:39 PM

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p.3 #9 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

ben egbert wrote:

I have small hands, and am getting too old to haul a monster around. I sold most of my primes and have a smaller lightweight system now. Just need to replace my heavy aluminum tripod with a carbon model.

I too, have been struggling with poor health and a heavy 1DsIII system. My biggest issue is the gear I take when I travel. My solution? I bought a 6D and will take some core lenses: 50mm (not sure about f1.8 or f1.2), 85mm f1.8, 17TSE, 24-105 (maybe), possibly the 135 f2 and a CF tripod.

I should have noted that I'm keeping the 1Ds for when i'm at home.

Feb 15, 2013 at 08:42 AM

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p.3 #10 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

skibum5 wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
svetljo wrote:
there is "iso safety shift" that could be used as auto iso to some extent :-)

Yes I know of that but compared to the 5D3's completely customisable ISO the 1Ds3 is out of the Ark

5D3's doesn't work. Doesn't allow EC in AutoISO M and the max min shutter speeds they lock you into in Av mode, for zero technical reason, are a joke.

Maybe I was wrong about what the 1Ds3 can do in terms of something like AutoISO. I thought you could set aperture and min shutter speed and then it would adjust ISO if needed while still using EC or something like that. Maybe you need 1D4 to get it working.

OK, so I have been reading along in the thread and was until tonight just about to pull the trigger on buying a used 1Ds MK3 but then I read about the "No Auto ISO" on the 1Ds3 and my head sunk.

Really! well that little missing ability really kills it for me as I use Auto ISO all the time when shooting Motorsports. But what I'm really not understanding is what the problem is with the 5D3's Auto ISO. It must have the same standard Auto ISO that's found on my 7D or does it not? javascript:void(0);

Feb 17, 2013 at 06:54 AM

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p.3 #11 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

The 5D3 auto ISO is better than the 7D in that you can set a minimum ISO and minimum shutter speed (up to 1/250) in addition to maximum ISO. The complaint is that in manual mode you can't adjust exposure compensation, but does any camera allow this? Minimum shutter speed is nice, could be faster, but having been given that it makes me want minimum aperture as well to prevent lenses from going wide open Tv mode. Not complaining, just greedy.

Feb 17, 2013 at 06:45 PM

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p.3 #12 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

presb4 wrote:
skibum5 wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
svetljo wrote:
there is "iso safety shift" that could be used as auto iso to some extent :-)

Yes I know of that but compared to the 5D3's completely customisable ISO the 1Ds3 is out of the Ark

5D3's doesn't work. Doesn't allow EC in AutoISO M and the max min shutter speeds they lock you into in Av mode, for zero technical reason, are a joke.

Maybe I was wrong about what the 1Ds3 can do in terms of something like AutoISO. I thought you could set aperture and min shutter speed and then it would adjust ISO if needed while still using EC or something like that. Maybe you need 1D4 to get it working.

OK, so I have been reading along in the thread and was until tonight just about to pull the trigger on buying a used 1Ds MK3 but then I read about the "No Auto ISO" on the 1Ds3 and my head sunk.

Really! well that little missing ability really kills it for me as I use Auto ISO all the time when shooting Motorsports. But what I'm really not understanding is what the problem is with the 5D3's Auto ISO. It must have the same standard Auto ISO that's found on my 7D or does it not? javascript:void(0);

The problem is that it doesn't let you use EC with AutoISO in M mode and in Av mode it drops the shutter ridiculously low. Marketing purposely had them lock the settings can allow for the min shutter speed to only slow and largely useless shutter speeds, which is absurd since other brands give fully working autoiso even on lowest end gear and have done for ages, they could fix it like literally changing perhaps as little as 4 bytes of code and at worse by adding 10 numbers to a list.

So either you use it in M mode and hope you don't need EC or use it in Av mode and get blurred photos.

It's beyond ridiculous that they have now spent an entire decade slowly dribbling working autoiso out one tiny little bit by bit. Come on it's autoiso it's not the king's ransom!

Feb 17, 2013 at 11:07 PM

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p.3 #13 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

Thanks guys for the quick response. I understand now what the gripes are about.

Feb 18, 2013 at 03:07 AM

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p.3 #14 · 1DS-mk3 vs 5d-mkIII

For me I only use Auto ISO in Tv mode, so at least I can have EC available and I clearly set the shutter speed to avoid camera shake. It's a pretty good alternative, but no excuse for them screwing up M mode and not offering better options for the minimum shutter speed like Nikon D800 does, where you can set 1/FL, up to 1/4*FL IIRC.

Feb 18, 2013 at 05:23 AM

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