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jasonpatrick
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p.2 #1 · Which lense for close wildlife


big country wrote:
100-400 is a great lens in my opinion.

http://www.holzphotoclient.com/Gear/1dx/i-v64Rmcp/0/L/AI3Q0711-L.jpg

Camera: Canon EOS-1D X
Exposure Time: 0.0012s (1/800)
Aperture: f/5
ISO: 6400
Focal Length: 180mm


180mm? That's too close for me



Feb 13, 2013 at 05:07 PM
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p.2 #2 · Which lense for close wildlife


I have the 400 5.6 and a 70-200 2.8 and the 1.4X and 2X VIII TCs, but when I go out for birds and critters, it is almost always the 100-400 that I grab. The flexibility to zoom in to 400 for a few shots then to quickly zoom out to 100-200 to allow some of the surroundings in a shot is great. I'll usually throw the little pancake 40 in my pocket too.

My vote is for the 100-400 and sell or keep the 400.

Steve



Feb 13, 2013 at 05:58 PM
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I have the 500/4 and had the 400/5.6. The 400 is a wonderful lens, no doubt but I never used it after gettinng the 500. Given the $, why not the new Sigma 120-300/2.8 OS? I am not a fan of the Canon 100-400.


Feb 13, 2013 at 07:13 PM
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lowa2 wrote:
Thanks for that. Up to now, I've only heard good reports.

Charles


Don't get me wrong IQ of the 300 f/4IS + 1.4x is good, but it needs to be stopped down a little for best results, but 100-400L is fine wide open and takes a 1.4x remarkably well, whereas a 300 f/4L IS + 2x is not a pretty sight at all.



Feb 14, 2013 at 02:39 AM
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p.2 #5 · Which lense for close wildlife


My experience was that the 100-400 was not fine wide open and did not take a 1.4x TC well at all.


Feb 14, 2013 at 02:59 PM
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gasrocks wrote:
My experience was that the 100-400 was not fine wide open and did not take a 1.4x TC well at all.


That was my experience as well, but there are a lot of FM'rs that have posted great results wide open with this lens. If internet lore is to be believed, there was a lot a variability in early batches of this lens. If it was me, I'd only buy a new, or a newer used version.



Feb 14, 2013 at 03:22 PM
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p.2 #7 · Which lense for close wildlife


drobertfranz wrote:
70-300mm L is what I'd go with!


+1





Feb 14, 2013 at 04:18 PM
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p.2 #8 · Which lense for close wildlife


I have both a 100-400mm and a 400mm f/5.6. I tend to use the 100-400 most because of its versatility. But the 400 is definitely sharper wide open than the 100-400 is at 400mm, and the 400 autofocus is quicker. I'll opt for the 400 for BIF when the light is good and I'm sure I'll be focal length limited.

Art



Feb 14, 2013 at 06:01 PM
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p.2 #9 · Which lense for close wildlife


Another vote for the 100-400. My logic with examples are explained here. I've had about 13 years of enjoyment using this lens.
Dave



Feb 14, 2013 at 06:17 PM
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drobertfranz wrote:
70-300mm L is what I'd go with!


Plus 1^ It is an excellent lens to go with what you have. I have both the 100-400 and the 70-300 and find myself carrying the 70-300 and my 500 f4 the majority of the time.
Norm



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gasrocks wrote:
My experience was that the 100-400 was not fine wide open and did not take a 1.4x TC well at all.


Sounds like you have a rare dud.

Mine was as good as my 400 f/5.6L wide open @ 400mm, or so close as to not make a difference and it's still excellent wide open with the 1.4x TC attached. I sold the 400 f/5.6L, but it does have significantly faster AF than the zoom for action work.



Feb 14, 2013 at 09:22 PM
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p.2 #12 · Which lense for close wildlife


jasonpatrick wrote:
180mm? That's too close for me



Too close for me as well. Is that bear charging you?



Feb 14, 2013 at 09:28 PM
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p.2 #13 · Which lense for close wildlife


70-200 f/4L IS

even works at night with a little help from the 430EXII:



Lesser long-nosed bat by jimmy_racoon, on Flickr




Edited on Oct 27, 2013 at 04:30 PM · View previous versions



Oct 16, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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tarnis wrote:
Was hoping for a 100-400 mkii by now...have heard very 'mixxed' reviews on that one.


Mixed reviews on the 100-400L bascially go:

Wow that's a great lens
Wow that's an excellent lens
Wow, this is a wonderful lens

Most of the others are bogus, unless they specifically got a dud, and then you shouldn't be wriitng reviews until it's fixed.

Nearly all the bad press for this lens is traced back to a Luminous Landscape article many years ago, that showed the 400 f/5.6L trouncing it. Based on their massive sample, size of one, it became internet folk lore that 100-400L was crap.

Some claim lenses built after 2005 seem to have better QC and IQ, but whether or not this is true 100-400L is IMO best all round semi-budget wildlife/close-up lens you can get.



Oct 16, 2013 at 01:32 AM
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Am I experiencing déjà vu, or did you just post your second reply to that post, Whayne?


Oct 16, 2013 at 01:50 AM
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mitesh wrote:
Am I experiencing déjà vu, or did you just post your second reply to that post, Whayne?




Damn, I hadn't realised this was an old resurrected thread. Well I expanded on the previous very brief reply at least.




Oct 16, 2013 at 03:56 AM
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drobertfranz wrote:
70-300mm L is what I'd go with!


+1

I really like my 100-400, but the 70-300L is sharper, smaller & lighter.
If 300 is long enough for you, then it seems to be the better of the two.
My trusty 70-200f4IS is the only reason I don't own one.



Oct 16, 2013 at 04:54 AM
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p.2 #18 · Which lense for close wildlife


Agree the 100-400L deserves consideration. My copy is very sharp throughout the zoom range. At 400mm at f/5.6, it is considerably sharper than my 70-200 2.8L IS II + 2X III, which is the only other Canon "zoom lens" that matches its 400mm reach, speed, and portability.

About the only negative aspect of the 100-400L (other than the 2-stop IS system and the push-pull configuration which you may like or not) is that the bokeh at 400mm is a bit nervous compared to a 400mm prime. However, this is less of an issue on full frame, and in many shots won't be noticed.



Oct 16, 2013 at 04:58 PM
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Extension tubes.


Oct 16, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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mfreardon wrote:
Too close for me as well. Is that bear charging you?


Shot from an observation platform while the bear had sighted a fish?



Oct 16, 2013 at 05:55 PM
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