fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
  

Archive 2013 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...

  
 
Foggy14
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Psychic, very fine work. I mostly hang out with the Nikon MF guys, but I must say the Canon TS-E lenses are very intriguing!


Mar 16, 2013 at 12:51 AM
Gunzorro
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #2 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Great thread! These postings continue to stoke my fire to get a 17 TS-E.

I know it's been covered somewhere, but I had hard time searching for this piece of info: I know the 17 TS-E will work with Canon teleconverters, especially the 1.4X variety. Does anyone know if there is an IQ advantage or disadvantage between the 1.4X version II and version III converters? I've heard there is a slight decline in IQ when using with the 17, but perhaps one is sharper than the other?

Thanks for the photos and topic, Psychic. Please publish more if you have them.



Apr 08, 2013 at 07:40 PM
UnknownSouljer
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #3 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Psychic1 wrote:
Actually, if you are a professional photographer they make permits available for FREE after checking your credentials.

Tripods cause problems in congested areas so they limit the number and more importantly the time.

No one shoots during rush hour.

The Green Teal are calling me


Might I ask what "credentials" are required?



Apr 09, 2013 at 08:32 PM
MDJAK
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #4 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


I am in grand central about 3 times per week. I see people with tripods all the time. No one challenges them.

Great shots. Just found my 17 tse. It was hiding in an unused backpack in my closet. I'll have to give it a try.



Apr 09, 2013 at 09:50 PM
SoundHound
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #5 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


You can also get the 1.4 TC effect, no loss in F stop and the luxury of an, effectivly, larger image circle (the limiting factor for tilts and shifts) by mounting your 17mm TSE on a crop sensor body.

As to 1.4X II and III IQ: I believe the major advantage in MK III IQ is in the, optically challenged 2.0 TC (even the, veteran, Bikon 1.7TC is well regard and works well for me). The other MK III improvements have to do with newer Great Whites and AF which has no meaning on a MF TSE.

As to tripods: Useful but not essential if you refine the peculiar technique needed with the MF TSEs. Also don't be shy about adjusting the geometry in Adobe's RAW converter because, at the RAW level, you won"t compromise IQ.



Apr 09, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Gunzorro
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #6 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


SoundHound wrote:
You can also get the 1.4 TC effect, no loss in F stop and the luxury of an, effectivly, larger image circle (the limiting factor for tilts and shifts) by mounting your 17mm TSE on a crop sensor body.

As to 1.4X II and III IQ: I believe the major advantage in MK III IQ is in the, optically challenged 2.0 TC (even the, veteran, Bikon 1.7TC is well regard and works well for me). The other MK III improvements have to do with newer Great Whites and AF which has no meaning on a MF TSE.

As to tripods: Useful
...Show more

I don't find the crop IQ of my 60D to equal my 1Ds3 or 5D2, plus would add quite a bit more bulk to carry an extra body than to the extender. At that point, I would maybe just bring my 24 TS-E along too. But a little 1.4X would be a lot handier than either 24 TSE or second body. I will certainly give this a try on the 1D3, where it comes out to about 22mm and a load of movements. But the big downside of the extender is the loss of a stop of light.

I didn't quite get what you are saying regarding the difference in IQ between the II or III on 1.4X. Are you saying there is no improvement for TSE lenses, only 2X versions and tele lenses?

I agree about the tripod thing -- I seldom use one with TSE unless longer exposure is needed. And I agree about what I call primping the final image in LR to make it square and cropped exactly.

**********
I took the plunge today with a good deal on eBay. Should be shipping soon and in my hands. I'm jazzed to complete my TSE collection with my most desired model. Needless to say, I won't be buying any fancy lenses for a while!



Apr 10, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Doctorbird
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #7 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Very nice Psychic1. Now tempted to add the 17 to my collection but I'm sure it isn't just the lens.

These are quite a bit different from your Kingfishers.

Db



Apr 10, 2013 at 12:33 AM
Dragonfire
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #8 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Doctorbird wrote:
Very nice Psychic1. Now tempted to add the 17 to my collection but I'm sure it isn't just the lens.

These are quite a bit different from your Kingfishers.

Db


Doc:

Loved Easter Greeting and am certain your results would be equal or better if you were in New York.

PM me when you land at JFK



Apr 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Bearmann
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


MDJAK wrote:
I am in grand central about 3 times per week. I see people with tripods all the time. No one challenges them......



I was forced to put my tripod away when I was there.


Oh, and really nice photos, Psychic1.

If you only had the 24 TS, would it be possible to combine the tilt and shift to stitch 2 or 3 photos together for the same effect?



Apr 11, 2013 at 08:35 AM
Ben D. Mor
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #10 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...



Great pics, Psychic1!

Here are a few of mine, hand-held:

http://m8.i.pbase.com/o3/78/182278/1/146288468.Uvq7nrKS.IMG_0424awf.jpg

With in-camera (5D3) HDR:
http://m3.i.pbase.com/o3/78/182278/1/146358583.5OEDxnfe.IMG_0123awf.jpg

http://m9.i.pbase.com/o3/78/182278/1/146288469.JSh0Wu8U.IMG_0455bw.jpg

http://m8.i.pbase.com/o4/78/182278/1/149229678.BXfxe2CN.IMG_9027bwf.jpg

http://m4.i.pbase.com/o3/78/182278/1/146288464.imBdMhTa.IMG_0204awf.jpg

It takes some coordination to set everything up hand-held, but I'm learning...

Cheers,
Ben



Apr 11, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Dragonfire
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #11 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Bearmann wrote:
If you only had the 24 TS, would it be possible to combine the tilt and shift to stitch 2 or 3 photos together for the same effect?


The 17mm was not wide enough, five shots with the 24 vertical might be better.

Ben, this was handheld. 3 shot HDR, I was playing.
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/37/705637/1/149523150.DdLnoOD2.100dpi32.JPG



Apr 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM
harrygilbert
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #12 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Beautiful shots, but since you state that they were taken with "no lens correct at all", I can't help but wondering what the Canon 14mm rectilinear lens would do....


Apr 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Ben D. Mor
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #13 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Very nice perspective in the Ground Zero pic and everything is in focus, foreground to background. Can you provide the EXIF data?
I also find the electronic level indicator very useful on the 5D3, though hand-held this is not so easy to manage.



Apr 11, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Gunzorro
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #14 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Got it!
Got the MA adjusted on three bodies (for focus confirm), so need to see in real situations.
(When using a tripod, I'll use LV.)
Waiting for sunny weather to do some comparisons to other lenses.
Thanks for the inspiration!



Apr 24, 2013 at 05:27 PM
Gunzorro
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #15 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


A couple Dali-inspired shots.












May 13, 2013 at 04:00 PM
StarNut
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #16 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Love those shots!

I like the third one the best, but I love all of them.

Mark



May 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM
runamuck
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #17 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


JohnBrose wrote:
permits-Another way for cities to get some extra $. It's amazing they didn't refuse photos due to homeland security fears.

That's been tried before by rent-a-cops. They actually tried to stop a news crew IIRC. Threatened lawsuits brought an education of the cops.

Some really nice photography there. Love the clock.



May 14, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Daan B
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #18 · TS-E17L in Grand Central...


Great shots. Really a testimony of the usability of a TSE-17. It is high on my wish list. Still see some distortion on photo #2. But given the circumstances and the angle used it is very mild. I am curious how sharpness / resolution holds up when tilted and/or shifted...


May 15, 2013 at 05:46 AM
1              end




FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account