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Hey guys,

Need fresh eyes on this one. I like the chisel as it adds an action to the photo, and injects the humor of the idiom. Then, I look at the other version and think all the information is already there, without the chisel.

What do you guys think? Thanks!













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Feb 01, 2013 at 07:06 PM
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p.1 #2 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


I'm a little foggy today. What is the idiom you are referring to?

Meanwhile, my initial impression:
- Without the chisel, I think it leans the interpretation more to "broken" or "old and falling apart". At least I think it allows the viewer to have that interpretation since it is not really clear if that piece was chisled off or it just broke off.
- With the chisel, I think it makes clearer that there was intent to either destroy or change.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:23 PM
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p.1 #3 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Chisel ...

Scale, balance, tones, lines, etc. Even the 3/4 infers not finished yet (although I might clone it out, as it draws the eye for attention). I am of the philosophy that I'm always "er" as in "older", not to be confused with "old".

Also, like Michaelangelo "chiseled" to bring David to completion, so does life chisel at as along the way as we get "er".



What's the piece for? The blocks look a bit static. I might like to see you put something under the "D" to tilt it a bit toward us, and also some rotation/offset to (slightly) reveal the mating cleaved area.

My read on the message/point is ... Life chisels away at us as we get old"er".

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Feb 01, 2013 at 07:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Thanks, Eyeball. I think I still like the action and intention the chisel lends to the image.

Chip off the old block.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:24 PM
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p.1 #5 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Ah, stupid me. Now I get it: chip off the old block. Ha. As I said, foggy, very foggy.

With THAT in mind, I think it could go either way. It just depends on if you want to emphasize intent or not.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:25 PM
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p.1 #6 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


That's interesting, Rusty. Propping just the D a bit toward the lens.

Some new self-promotion pieces I'm doing. It's part of a series that visualizes idioms.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:26 PM
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p.1 #7 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Skarkowtsky wrote:
Chip off the old block.


A swing and a miss by a country mile for me on this one.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #8 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


As the idiom stands, intent is not something it describes.

BUT, I think taking the idiom and injecting a pun/some humor, and twisting it from its literal definition is a better direction.

Therefore, I think that can only be pulled-off with the chisel in the frame.

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Feb 01, 2013 at 07:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


I still like the idea of possibly propping the D. I'll shoot it, see how I feel about it.

The only thing I'm concerned about is that all three blocks have to work in concert to spell the word OLD. The D, other than having the chip because it's in the foreground, isn't really much more important than the O and L.




Feb 01, 2013 at 07:29 PM
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p.1 #10 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Sounds like a fun project. I have always had dreams of doing a series of visual puns, which is in the same territory.


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p.1 #11 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Thanks, Eyeball. Yesterday I photographed 'Don't Put All Your Eggs In One Basket"

What a mess.

Agreed about 3/4, Rusty. I overlooked it when cleaning it up in post. Oops!



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:32 PM
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p.1 #12 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


I think the chisel detracts. The message is in the blocks (which I got right away ) but the high contrast of the chisel draws your eyes straight away from the blocks. The chipped block is clear, I don't think we need to be told how it happened.

Is this for stock? If so, use both.

Rob



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:35 PM
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p.1 #13 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Thanks, Rob. I started thinking the same thing these past few minutes. Really torn between the two.

Right now, it's for promos being sent to Art Buyers and AD's.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #14 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


+1 @ Rob, chisel contrast drawing the eye. Maybe a different lighting/pp that plays down the chisel highlights?

Given my "swing & a miss" at life chiseling away at us ... does it have any value to be able to show it as multi-use to an AD?

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Feb 01, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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p.1 #15 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


I can cut the light on the chisel, but I'm really leaning toward no chisel now. Haha!

The how really isn't important here, the immediacy is.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:41 PM
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p.1 #16 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Re-shot it without the chisel and the D more off axis. I like it a lot.

Thanks guys!



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:48 PM
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p.1 #17 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Might be the audience ... but without the chisel ... all I see is OLD, the scale of the chip is so diminutive to the collective scale of the blocks spelling out the word. Also, the volume of color in the blocks commands more attention than the chip for me. The chisel's lines help point us to the lesser element, lest we miss it in favor of the scale & color of the blocks. Of course, the contrast of the chip helps pull us to it.

Anyway, that's how it "strikes" me.

Will see how it changes on the re-shoot.



Feb 01, 2013 at 07:48 PM
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p.1 #18 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


New one. Thanks to everyone.

Rob, I think it's clear without the chisel.

Rusty, I think the additional rotation to the D reveals more of the chipped side, as well as making the configuration of the letters a bit more natural and loose.










Feb 01, 2013 at 08:11 PM
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p.1 #19 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


To me, it looks like you composed for the chisel, then removed it. I think it works better compositionally with the chisel, but I'm interested to see the reshoot.

I kind of like how life chisels away at you, but the chunk looks more like it was broken off than chiseled off.



Feb 01, 2013 at 08:19 PM
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p.1 #20 · ADDED: Promos for those who wanted to see. (chisel)


Hi Doug,

Thanks for stopping in. The piece was chiseled off, but needed to have a chipped look to meet the idiom.

I think leaving the chisel out makes the message clearer. Some guys are looking at the pattern from the chisel and rightfully saying it doesn't look like a chisel strike, reading into that a bit much, others look past the chisel, others say its a distraction.

I think everyone is right.

I didn't want that rigid chisel look, because then it would detract from the idiom which uses the word "chip". I think without showing a reason how it got chipped, it reads as a chip, and works with the blocks, and the word old.

Know what I'm saying?

As for composition, it was laid out around the chisel initially, though I like the irregularity. I didn't want to stack them, too obvious, and I didn't want to set them horizontally. This seems like they were thrown down, quickly tossed together, etc.



Feb 01, 2013 at 08:29 PM
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