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You're welcome Scott.
I know that what I wrote has been on many members minds for a long time. I tried to present such a sensitive and subjective matter with a propriety of dignity and respect for our fellow member whom we all value and have all benefited from his contributions and participation.
I believe that if we are all honest with ourselves, we know that we have all been prone to needing a "gentle nudge" from time to time. FM in general and this forum in particular has incredibly good members ... all of whom I value.
As such, I would like to apologize to Chuck ... not for saying what I did, as I aspired to speak the truth in kindness with dignity & respect ... but for the knowledge that I know I stepped on an emotional nerve of someone who I truly do have a degree of dignity and respect for.
I think the thing that put this issue "over the top" for me was the reference to the "teacher" and "psychological experiment". While we do all aspire to assist others in learning (making us all aspiring teachers) via the critical analysis and opinions offered, and we do recognize the psychology involved with the human response to the visual medium (and other people) ... it is the projection that any of us is better suited to help others learn (i.e. teach) that affronts fellow members.
In no way, shape or form do any of us singularly have the capacity to be "all things to all people" ... but collectively we present a very valuable place for growth to occur. This is the reason I keep coming here ... to learn from others, and to reciprocate in kind to help others learn.
When one subscribes to (or projects that) there isn't anything more for them to learn ... there becomes a perception that embodies a literal take on the term "know-it-all". But even beyond that, the "psychology" involved with a group of people that have assembled to be part of a shared learning forum are naturally at odds with the concept of anyone who projects only a willingness to "teach", with little regard to the prospect of learning and including themselves amidst the body of "learners". In this manner, a projection of distinction is contrary to one of immersion with the group of members.
Chuck, I do not desire for you to remove yourself from this forum. Your contributing value to us and other fellow FM members is inherent. But, that being said ... a forum is not a classroom ... and there is no "teacher". Rather a collection / assembly of all walks of life, background, training, experience and talent levels that come together to share in a "give & take" manner.
Oddly enough, you do present that you aspire to "give" to the OP (et al) as a teacher/mentor. This is not a bad thing in and of itself ... except for the repeated posturing that you project regarding your status/qualifications as a teacher/mentor. The strong defense that you frequently present as an unwillingness to "take" from others who are likewise offering to "give" in the spirit of the forum, puts you at odds unnecessarily with your fellow members.
I personally have learned from you, but it wasn't because of your reference to your pedigree, it was because of the information that I could relate to regarding the subject matter. Meanwhile, others that could not relate to your material as presented ... all the pedigrees in the world are meaningless and offer no contributing value for advancing their learning. All that people need to respect your knowledge, experience & talent ... is your knowledge, experience and talent. They don't need to be reminded of your pedigree to enhance or garner such respect. It reminds me of the old adage that:
"A photographer is only as good as his last photograph."
We cannot rest on our laurels and expect others to cling to what our former selves offer in limitation. Great teachers never stop learning and great teachers know how to learn from their students as well through the teaching and learning processes. So really, all that is being asked here is that you relinquish your projection as being a great teacher predicated upon your former self and become a part of the forum aspiring to grow as both a teacher and student along with the rest of us.
We simply want you to be one of us in the spirit of the forum, rather than continually presenting yourself as not one of us.
Again, I apologize for the pain/angst that stepping on an emotional nerve causes. I realize that this is well beyond a "gentle nudge" ... but it is truly intended to still be in keeping with the spirit of a good FM'er maintaining dignity and respect for our fellow members. I truly hope you understand ... if not today, then tomorrow.
God Bless, thank you for your contributions, and I hope this helps such that growth and learning can be well promoted for everyone to perpetuity.
Now ... "Bring on the Pics"