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p.3 #1 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

jim allison wrote:
Hi Ben,
I'm not going to bang my head against the wall trying to taech you something. My credentials speak for themselves. Good luck with all your purchases. Everyone has right to their own opinion.It's just that somepeoples are more informed then others.I don't thnik that you read or understand what I have written. It's not that I worked in a store, it's that I was a NYC photo rep
selling lenses any other equipment for many years.What's your authority? You are either an amteur or professional photographer, in other words a consumer who thinks he knows about
how the photoequipment industry works and doesn't know anythig at all about it.

With all due respect credentials don't automatically make you right. Most used gear is sold at places like the Buy and Sell forum here at FM, as well as craigslist and ebay. Many of us actively buy and sell at those places and you don't have to be a photo rep to understand the going rate of gear in the used market. Continuing the example that Ben gave, both Sigma 50mm 1.4 and Nikon 50mm 1.4 sell for about $350 on the used market. Not much difference in the resale value for these (despite a history of focus issues with this particular Sigma lens). At the end of the day if a lens is good it retains its value, if it is mediocre it doesn't. Also as I already mentioned, even if the Sigma ends up losing an extra $100 over the Nikon in 3 years, thats a really small amount to pay if Sigma serves your needs better. In those 3 years OP's camera is going to go down in price by about $1200-1500. It makes zero sense to not make the most use out of his camera just to save $100-150 over 3 years.

Anyways we have gone way off topic. My suggestion to OP would be to chose based on what FL you prefer - if you prefer 35mm then Sigma is the obvious choice. If you prefer 28mm then go for the Nikon.

Jan 11, 2013 at 03:49 AM

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p.3 #2 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I agree that this topic has strayed far way from the original post so let me see if I can help bring it back.

I am considering the purchase of one of these two lenses. The difference in price and depreciation is irrelavent to me. I can work with either focal length and be happy. While I believe the Sigma IQ and 3D pop is slightly better based on images in threads, the difference in weight is signifinant to me and could be a factor if the actual IQ difference is not that big.

So........ Does anyone out there actually have both, because they bought the Sigma, and haven't got around to selling the 28 G yet. If so, could you post a pair of images of a dog, cat pigeon or fire hydrant from the two lenses that demonstrate their ability to create 3 D pop and be sharp at a reasonably open aperture.

If someone could do that I would be forever greatful and you would be a forum hero to me.

Thanks in advance

Bill

Jan 12, 2013 at 03:15 PM

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p.3 #3 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I can do it for ya, Bill. What body shall I use, D800

What f stops...S f1.8/N f2.2 (2/3 each) ??
Taking the Mrs. out to brunch but when I return...it's "hero time"

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Jan 12, 2013 at 03:21 PM

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p.3 #4 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I currently have D800, D800E, and D4, but either the D4 or D800 will be sold in the very near future.

I think a pair of images from any of the above or even a D600 would be instructive for both myself and the forum. I think full frame and relatively high pixel density will be the challenge here so D800 would probably be most illustative.

Thanks! Now I may need to buy your 300mm f4 as part of my hero worship ritual

Bill

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Jan 12, 2013 at 03:28 PM

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p.3 #5 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

Rut roh, I've decided to keep it...too light/too sharp not to. Had a senior moment, methinks.

Jan 12, 2013 at 03:32 PM

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p.3 #6 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I just got the sigma 35 and need to do abit more testing but it's looking like I'm going to sell my 28 1.8G

Jan 12, 2013 at 03:41 PM

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p.3 #7 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

trenchmonkey wrote:
Rut roh, I've decided to keep it...too light/too sharp not to. Had a senior moment, methinks.

That's okay Will, it's worth keep'n.

The lens is so light, it's a real joy to shoot with.

Still, I'm really intrigued by the Siggy 35/1.4 "A" lens.

If ya get a chance, post up shots from both.

Jan 12, 2013 at 03:41 PM

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p.3 #8 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I don't know how you feel about mf lenses but you can probably get a second hand Zeiss 35mm f2 for about the price of the Sigma. If I were in your shoes I'd rent the Sigma and run it through some paces.

Jan 12, 2013 at 07:16 PM

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p.3 #9 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

My eyesight is getting to a point that the Zeiss 35mm f2.0 is probably not an option. If fact I am selling my Zeiss 25mmf2.8 ZF and Voigtlander 90mm APO for just that reason. The 28G or Sigma 35 would be it's replacement.

Bill

Jan 12, 2013 at 07:24 PM

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p.3 #10 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

Dpedraza wrote:
I don't know how you feel about mf lenses but you can probably get a second hand Zeiss 35mm f2 for about the price of the Sigma. If I were in your shoes I'd rent the Sigma and run it through some paces.

Out of curiosity. Is there any reason to believe that the Zeiss lens is better? I mean, other than the blue sticker

Jan 12, 2013 at 07:58 PM

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p.3 #11 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

Javier Munoz wrote:
Dpedraza wrote:
I don't know how you feel about mf lenses but you can probably get a second hand Zeiss 35mm f2 for about the price of the Sigma. If I were in your shoes I'd rent the Sigma and run it through some paces.

Out of curiosity. Is there any reason to believe that the Zeiss lens is better? I mean, other than the blue sticker

So far no. Unless you like paying more money for worse performing things.

Jan 12, 2013 at 09:59 PM

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p.3 #12 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I say that because I like my Zeiss lenses. I like the mf and image quality that comes out of them.

Jan 13, 2013 at 05:19 AM

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p.3 #13 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I'd say one thing for sure; I own a Sigma 35mm and 16-35VR. I always tend to reach for the sigma 95% of the time. But here's the problem, sometimes the sigma isn't wide enough on my D800/D700 so I reach for the 16-35VR. And guess what? I end up using a focal range of 25-28mm. Not too far from 35mm! So I was really tempted to sell those two and get a 28mm f/1.8G. No need to Cary two lenses anymore!

May 06, 2013 at 03:25 AM

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p.3 #14 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I have a Samyang 35 1.4

Sharpest lens I've used. If you're not in need of autofocus, this can be a great lens.

May 06, 2013 at 05:49 AM

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p.3 #15 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

One thing about the Nikon 28/1.8: Photozone has shown that it doesn't behave too well on the D7000. Seems that this lens doesn't like high pixel density. This is in accordance to Nikon's official MTF chart, showing a pronounced fall-off in the S30 line.

I reckon a D800 or a 24MP crop sensor will clearly show the problem. Since many people were talking about "future value", I think this is a clear point in favor of the Sigma and one to consider very carefully to begin with; 28mm is a focal length accessible with many zooms and f/1.8 is not the fastest out there.

I was in the same situation and I ended up buying the Sigma - never regretted it. Another important consideration is about the color rendition: which one do you prefer between Sigma's and Nikon's?

May 06, 2013 at 10:35 AM

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p.3 #16 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

Both lens are fantastic, just pick the one which makes the most sense in your lens setup.

I chose the 28 so I dont have to carry a 24 and a 35 anymore.
It fits my needs very well, couldn't be happier.

May 06, 2013 at 11:52 AM

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p.3 #17 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I shoot with both. On FX/DX the new Sigma A rocks. I prefer to use the 28 f1.8G on FX only
and it does a stellar job for me (usually low light and tight in the f2 - f2.5 range) My old PJ
buddy, AF-S 17-35 still gets the call in decent light as it's center sharpness is off da charts.
A guy could pick one up for around the price of the "A"...decisions, decisions.

May 06, 2013 at 12:14 PM

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p.3 #18 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

Hi, look for the topic on previous page: Sigma 35 mm f1.4 WOW WOW WOW; page 24 last 3 pictures.
These are mine. No flash. Just candlelight.

May 06, 2013 at 12:20 PM

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p.3 #19 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

28mm wide open.

Nikkor 28mm f/1.8G Nano swag by Ilya Lisyanyy, on Flickr

May 08, 2013 at 04:26 PM

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p.3 #20 · 28/1.8G or Sima 35/1.4??

I owned the Nikon 35/1.4G, currently own the Sigma 35/1.4, and tried the Nikon 28/1.8G.

I had poor focus accuracy on the Nikon 35; the Sigma is much, much better. The focus on the Nikon was so inconsistent compared to the Sigma, that (ironically) reminded me of Sigma's older offerings. The Sigma 35 is definitely a gem. Not only is focus better, image quality is superb at f/1.4. The micro-contrast from the Sigma reminds me of that from a Zeiss 35/2.

Comparing the Sigma 35 to the Nikon 28, they are two different focal lengths, so it comes down to preference. Shooting a Voigtlander 28/2 on Leica M-mount, I personally like the 28mm focal length.

Now looking at price, the Nikon 28 and Sigma 35 are similar. I went for the Sigma simply because I feel it's the better lens in terms of image quality. I also need f/1.4.

Being in Canada, the Sigma also provides a 10-year warranty with Gentec International. This definitely adds value to the Sigma for me. I no longer worry about compatibility with future bodies, front/back focus, and any mechanical issues with the lens. It's all covered.

Hope this helps.

May 08, 2013 at 07:51 PM

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