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snapsy wrote:
I'll save you the suspense - it will likely be identical to the 5DM3's performance


I'm ready to bet it will be closer to the 1DX than the 5DIII.



Dec 01, 2012 at 07:45 AM
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snapsy wrote:
I'll save you the suspense - it will likely be identical to the 5DM3's performance


If it is, the camera will be my next one.



Dec 01, 2012 at 08:03 AM
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skibum5 wrote:
It is quite bizarre it doesn't use the 5D3 sensor. I don't think they'd use the new fab on it. 5D3+1DX would go ape if the little came out a few months later and blew those cams away for lower ISO performance I'd think. MAYBE for the 7D2?? Maybe??


Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I bought the 5d3 to take pictures, not play "top trumps", where I compare cameras constantly.



Dec 01, 2012 at 08:36 AM
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skibum5 wrote:
well then there is this method, which takes 0.1 seconds to accomplish

snapsy wrote:
hehe. I figure Canon couldn't stomach a sensor that would outperform the 5DM3 in High ISO, let alone the 1DX. Low ISO is a tossup. I'm more interested in why they didn't use the 5DM3 sensor and whether this new sensor comes off the newer rumored fab tech that Chipworks discussed.

skibum5 wrote:
It is quite bizarre it doesn't use the 5D3 sensor. I don't think they'd use the new fab on it. 5D3+1DX would go ape if the little came out a few months later and blew those cams away for lower ISO performance I'd think. MAYBE for the 7D2?? Maybe??

PhilDrinkwater wrote:
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I bought the 5d3 to take pictures, not play "top trumps", where I compare cameras constantly.


It doesn't bother Canon either. The history is full of examples of sensor improvements showing up in less expensive cameras.

On of the small secrets in that reagrd was the 500D, with 15 MP sensor. It had cleaner shadows than the 50D that came just before it. Counting per sensor area, it was also better than the 5DII. The 18 MP sensors that came later, introduced a new type of vertical banding both in the deep shadows and in the higlhights (visible only after heavy post-processing). The 500D didn't have any of these faint "problems". It was really a gem in the pre- EXMOR times.



Dec 01, 2012 at 09:20 AM
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alundeb wrote:
It doesn't bother Canon either. The history is full of examples of sensor improvements showing up in less expensive cameras.

On of the small secrets in that reagrd was the 500D, with 15 MP sensor. It had cleaner shadows than the 50D that came just before it. Counting per sensor area, it was also better than the 5DII. The 18 MP sensors that came later, introduced a new type of vertical banding both in the deep shadows and in the higlhights (visible only after heavy post-processing). The 500D didn't have any of these faint "problems". It was really a gem in
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The discussion was specifically about High ISO performance.

EDIT: Thinking it over, I guess the 5DM2 vs 1DSM3 is one exception... hmm...


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Dec 01, 2012 at 02:32 PM
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alundeb wrote:
On of the small secrets in that reagrd was the 500D, with 15 MP sensor. It had cleaner shadows than the 50D that came just before it. Counting per sensor area, it was also better than the 5DII. The 18 MP sensors that came later, introduced a new type of vertical banding both in the deep shadows and in the higlhights (visible only after heavy post-processing). The 500D didn't have any of these faint "problems". It was really a gem in the pre- EXMOR times.


Oh no, what are you saying? An entry level camera can actually have a better sensor than more expensive cameras? What heresy?

But yes, I agree with you: Canon does occasionally introduce better sensors in lower end cameras. There are other high ISO examples, but I shan't name them in case I get bashed by owners of more expensive cameras.



Dec 01, 2012 at 02:37 PM
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It is not only Canon. All manufacturers do.


Dec 01, 2012 at 04:22 PM
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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Look at 5D MK3 vs 1DX . Same noise performance ,very slightly better DR for 1DX and speed (fps ). But iti costs more than double the price. Which makes 5DMK3 -a very smart buy even for Pro photographers that do not need 12 frames/second.


Dec 01, 2012 at 04:36 PM
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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · 6D Dynamic range sample


I think 6D will have a slightly better noise performance because of the bigger pixel pitch and because of a newer technology (especially at high iso values).


Dec 01, 2012 at 04:42 PM
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Canon 6D/5D3-comparison, high ISO raw files, link: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11279.msg201920;topicseen#new


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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Hell! This looks fantastic, doesn´t it?


Dec 01, 2012 at 04:56 PM
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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Today i was playing with some RAW files from 6D, the files are not mine.

What do you guys think?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8065/8235585402_32ee1a55ea_o.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8487/8234523589_75333271fd_o.jpg
+4EV
100% Shadows

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8206/8234544855_3c1c9dd7a6_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8068/8235611512_8621ea1ceb_b.jpg



Dec 01, 2012 at 05:21 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · 6D Dynamic range sample


DR looks great IMO.
Nice to see I will not be needing to buy a D800 ;-)



Dec 01, 2012 at 05:48 PM
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8338/8234511005_3823555905_o.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8235576530_55152b6397_o.jpg
+1EV
100% Shadows

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8203/8235584108_143534a79b_b.jpg
100%crop



Dec 01, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Thank you. I do not like the oversampled contrast contours in the original. But DR looks nice imo like the nobanding in lifted shadows.

Could you please send a 100% crop of the focused area?
Ralph



Dec 01, 2012 at 05:56 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · 6D Dynamic range sample


http://www.flickr.com/photos/hugo-camara/8234544855/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hugo-camara/8235584108/sizes/o/in/photostream/



Dec 01, 2012 at 05:59 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Thank you. But I mentioned the original pictures of course.


Dec 01, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · 6D Dynamic range sample


those look better than pushing the 5d3 +4EV at iso 100

i say that as a 5d3 owner



Dec 01, 2012 at 06:09 PM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Just give me a few minutes Ralph, uploading the original files to flickr.


Dec 01, 2012 at 06:15 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · 6D Dynamic range sample


Thank you, Hugo. All time you want/need. Great samples by the way.

Ralph



Dec 01, 2012 at 06:18 PM
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