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p.14 #1 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


I can see where this is going

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Dec 01, 2012 at 12:54 AM
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p.14 #2 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Looking forward to your samples.


Dec 01, 2012 at 03:39 AM
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Legion5 wrote:
That site uses extremely high jpg compression which removes the texture from the Sigma's bokeh.


First, I disagree. There is plenty of detail in those shots. Second, if you want to make a point about the Canon and Sigma respective bokeh, the only valid way to do it is a controlled comparison with the same subject matter. That site has done it. You have not.

Anyone can cherry pick examples of ugly bokeh for any lens. Your samples are invalid.

That's the last thing I have to say about this.



Dec 01, 2012 at 04:02 AM
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asabet wrote:
First, I disagree. There is plenty of detail in those shots. Second, if you want to make a point about the Canon and Sigma respective bokeh, the only valid way to do it is a controlled comparison with the same subject matter. That site has done it. You have not.

Anyone can cherry pick examples of ugly bokeh for any lens. Your samples are invalid.

That's the last thing I have to say about this.


+1 Absolutely. Anyone who has any scientific background, or experience, knows how easy it is to fool yourself and/or others when the results of comparisons are not controlled - i.e. same subject, same lighting etc...



Dec 01, 2012 at 04:26 AM
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p.14 #5 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


dude, the Sigma is much better than the Canon's version in all aspects. If I didn't already have a Contax and Leica, I would definitely get the Sigma. I had the Canon and sold it within a week, nothing was good about it.
Then again, I might just get the Sigma. Can't have too many 35mm lenses.



Dec 01, 2012 at 04:26 AM
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asabet wrote:
First, I disagree. There is plenty of detail in those shots. Second, if you want to make a point about the Canon and Sigma respective bokeh, the only valid way to do it is a controlled comparison with the same subject matter. That site has done it. You have not.

Anyone can cherry pick examples of ugly bokeh for any lens. Your samples are invalid.

That's the last thing I have to say about this.


+1 very true



Dec 01, 2012 at 07:39 AM
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kaycephoto wrote:
wow. pretty impressive stuff


Yes the new Sigma is very very impressive



Dec 01, 2012 at 07:41 AM
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Legion5 wrote:
That site uses extremely high jpg compression which removes the texture from the Sigma's bokeh. It also uses comparison images that are less than ideal comparisons.

The Canon's onion bokeh has one strong set of onion bokeh rings about 1/4th of the way from the outside of the circle and then one set of strong rings 1/4 of the way from the center very few elsewhere, this isn't especially an eyesore. The Sigma has a rough texture throughout the whole OOF highlight of medium intensity with dozens of closely spaced intense onion bokeh rings.
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While we could argue about how good the comparison was on that website, I don't think your examples which are trying to compare using widely different images can be called conclusive at all. If you could post controlled comparison shots with same subject under same conditions, then your arguments can be useful. Right now the only resources showing a more apples-to-apples comparison are resources like that website.



Dec 01, 2012 at 07:53 AM
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p.14 #9 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


I have two questions for people that have used both the 35L and the Sigma.

1) Is the weight and size difference noticeable?

2) Have you noticed a significant difference with color, i.e. the warmer/yellower cast that some Sigma lenses seem to have?

If someone could post an example of the color difference, I'd be grateful.

I'm considering this lens, but I really love my 35L and have never felt that it wasn't sharp enough at f/1.4. That said, I do see the clear improvement in sharpness with the Sigma so I'm curious.




Dec 01, 2012 at 05:20 PM
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p.14 #10 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Quick use of the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM w/my 5D3.

Nothing fancy or scientific, just shooting wide open, 100 iso when possible

Would I use this over my 35L when it comes to a paid wedding? Ummmm......

Love the build quality and the lens hood, excellent, AF speed is about the same as my 35L

Phil

full rez: http://philteves.smugmug.com/Other/Sigma-35mm-f14-DG-HSM/26834573_32q34z#!i=2247830793&k=tn6Q6ph


































































































































































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jojomon11 wrote:
Quick use of the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM w/my 5D3.

Nothing fancy or scientific, just shooting wide open, 100 iso when possible

Would I use this over my 35L when it comes to a paid wedding? Ummmm......

Love the build quality and the lens hood, excellent, AF speed is about the same as my 35L

Phil



Great set Phil,
But still WHY ? - "Would I use this over my 35L when it comes to a paid wedding? Ummmm......"



Dec 02, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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isaacimage wrote:
Great set Phil,
But still WHY ? - "Would I use this over my 35L when it comes to a paid wedding? Ummmm......"


I think a better question is why would you keep both?



Dec 02, 2012 at 01:08 AM
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p.14 #13 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Thanks guys ^

It's just a matter of preference at this point, I would not hesitate to use either one, I could easily get more money out of selling the 35L if I decide to let it go. But the money is not the point

Phil



Dec 02, 2012 at 01:14 AM
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p.14 #14 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Took this quick shot of my GF after a gig to shoot the trucks behind her. She was a bit under the weather but is always a good sport:

5dmkIII + Sigma 35 1.4 wide open


KE2A7352-Edit by Prodigy83, on Flickr



Dec 02, 2012 at 09:40 PM
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vipergts831 wrote:
Took this quick shot of my GF after a gig to shoot the trucks behind her. She was a bit under the weather but is always a good sport:

5dmkIII + Sigma 35 1.4 wide open

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8063/8236407822_accb861cc9_c.jpg
KE2A7352-Edit by Prodigy83, on Flickr


Just took a look at the rest of your shots with the 35 1.4, great stuff, and damn is that sharp (looking at the 2048p sized images at least). I think I'm sold.



Dec 04, 2012 at 06:41 AM
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DPR have test shots:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/12/04/sigma-35mm-f14-preview-samples



Dec 04, 2012 at 09:08 PM
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p.14 #17 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Lasse Eriksson wrote:
Yes the new Sigma is very very impressive


The Sigma comes easily out on top from those tests. Look carefully and it's bokeh is as good, its blur circles are more circular, it makes infinitely better starbursts due to it 9 blades and its sharper.
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Interestingly in the bokeh tests its the 35L that has more onion ring blur circles than the Sigma.



Dec 04, 2012 at 09:48 PM
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p.14 #18 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


Sharpness is only calibration matter. Colors and AF are two most important things to test a lens. Sigma seems to have a winner here and that does not mean to replace the 35L.


Dec 04, 2012 at 10:53 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
The Sigma comes easily out on top from those tests. Look carefully and it's bokeh is as good, its blur circles are more circular, it makes infinitely better starbursts due to it 9 blades and its sharper.
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Interestingly in the bokeh tests its the 35L that has more onion ring blur circles than the Sigma.


Based on these tests and the pics posted here and dpreview, I'd have to say that the Sigma beats the 35L - pretty convincingly. Assuming the AF speed/accuracy is up to par and the copy variation is not a problem, then Sigma has made a superior lens. Pretty impressive - of course the 35L is an old lens, so we probably shouldn't be too surprised.



Dec 05, 2012 at 12:17 AM
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p.14 #20 · Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions


mttran wrote:
Sharpness is only calibration matter. Colors and AF are two most important things to test a lens. Sigma seems to have a winner here and that does not mean to replace the 35L.


+1

IMHO If I didn't have a 35, I would def. get the siggy 35 1.4 hands down, if I had the 35L already, I don't think it would justify replacing it, unless you like to have 2 35's with you all the time


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