p.2 #1 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
Ok - this is all very reassuring. I went through a nightmare of running through multiple defective d800s before switching back to Canon, so I guess I'm a little paranoid. Appreciate the feedback.
p.2 #2 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
rk-d wrote:
Ok - this is all very reassuring. I went through a nightmare of running through multiple defective d800s before switching back to Canon, so I guess I'm a little paranoid. Appreciate the feedback.
p.2 #3 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
retrofocus wrote:
Agreed. Seeing this image of the 5D III at ISO 6400, I also admit that it is better than ISO 6400 in the 5D II. I rarely use high ISO numbers like this, but in cases where I used ISO 6400, I saw much more noise and some banding in dark red areas on the 5D II.
p.2 #4 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
rk-d wrote:
Ok - this is all very reassuring. I went through a nightmare of running through multiple defective d800s before switching back to Canon, so I guess I'm a little paranoid. Appreciate the feedback.
Yeah, Canon's QA on bodies is much better for the current generation of cameras IMO. Actually Canon's QA on bodies has always been very good - it's just that NIkon's went to crap.
p.2 #5 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
rk-d wrote:
I am testing out my new 5D3 - I have a couple weeks left on my return window and I shot a few random shots with a 35L today. I noticed some shadow banding at ISO 6400.
This is an OOC JPEG. Note the banding in the shadows. I need to know if I should exchange the camera, or if this others have similar results at >ISO 6400. I rarely if ever shoot in these conditions (single light source, dark room, high ISO), so avoiding the problem is not a big deal. That said, if this is abnormal, I need to exchange the camera.
p.2 #9 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
Gochugogi wrote:
Banding is specific type of noise artifact. It is no less noise than fixed pattern noise or random noise patterns.
I know.
But it seems that some people keep referring to random or fixed or "general" noise in the whole picture, which is why they are saying that it is low.
And it is quite low for a ISO 6400 for sure, it's certainly impressive.
In fact, I am waiting for the 5DMIII price to get lower so I buy one myself, and shots like these makes the waiting all the more difficult.
But the OP asked for a specific issue: banding.
Not general noise but banding.
And I do see banding in the darker left part of the picture (wall).
Is it an issue?
I don't think so, at least for me.
But it's there.
As I said, from what I've read it seems some posters were referring to general noise.
I could be wrong of course, as I could have miss interpreted what they meant.
p.2 #10 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
fraga wrote:
I know.
But it seems that some people keep referring to random or fixed or "general" noise in the whole picture, which is why they are saying that it is low.
And it is quite low for a ISO 6400 for sure, it's certainly impressive.
In fact, I am waiting for the 5DMIII price to get lower so I buy one myself, and shots like these makes the waiting all the more difficult.
But the OP asked for a specific issue: banding.
Not general noise but banding.
And I do see banding in the darker left part of the picture (wall).
Is it an issue?
I don't think so, at least for me.
But it's there.
As I said, from what I've read it seems some posters were referring to general noise.
I could be wrong of course, as I could have miss interpreted what they meant. ...Show more →
I got the impression from the posts that people knew what I was referring to, but yes you are correct - I am referring to the shadow banding and not the overall noise. Another reason I brought this up is because I've otherwise not seen much noise at ISO 6400. I have a decent keeper rate when I'm pushed to go that high (though I generally try to keep it ISO3200 and less). There is some detail smearing at pixel level, but the overall noise level is shockingly low in the other pics I've taken and the detail at normal viewing sizes is excellent. I've found that the 35L really lets the low light performance of this camera to shine. What's remarkable is that much of the color information is also retained. After my experiences briefly switching camps, I've also come to appreciate the real improvements Canon made in the 5d3 build - it almost feels like a mini 1dx. Overall - great camera.
p.2 #11 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
Good to know, rk-d.
et me tell you that the pic you posted is indeed impressive, noise-wise, and that is coming from a D3s owner.
Color is also very good, which is not easy at high iso.
Regarding noise, the D3s is quite good at iso 6400 but the color does suffer quite a bit.
The difference is noticeable from 3200.
That pic is very good in this regard, probably better than the D3s, though it's hard (or impossible) to compare like this.
Also In the pic you posted, the banding is not much but it's there and it shouldn't be.
Canon as yet to been able to solve this.
But it's not much (and lower from previous cameras) and I am under the impression that if that pic was shown to a non-photographer, the person would probably not even notice it, specially if in print or on screen at less than 100% magnification.
That is why I said I don't consider it to be an issue, at least in my opinion.
Sometimes, photographers can be pretty anal about things no one else notices...
And I am certainly to blame...
Now I have a bunch of canon lenses waiting for the 5DMIII price to come down...
p.2 #13 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
fraga wrote:
Also In the pic you posted, the banding is not much but it's there and it shouldn't be.
Canon as yet to been able to solve this.
Before jumping to conclusions, could the OP tell us if he used Highlight priority ON and vignetting correction ON ? These two settings may be responsible for what we're seeing here.
p.2 #14 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
The lens aberration correction was on, which does compensate for vignetting. I also had auto lighting optimizer set to standard, Highlight priority off. The lens correction and ALO may have may have made a difference, particularly since the area of concern was on the outer part of the frame.
p.2 #15 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
That's what I thought, especially as the shot appeared to have been taken wide open or at a large aperture. Have you been able to replicate this vague banding pattern lately ?
p.2 #17 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
MayaTlab wrote:
That's what I thought, especially as the shot appeared to have been taken wide open or at a large aperture. Have you been able to replicate this vague banding pattern lately ?
At the in-laws and had some spare time - took a bunch of low light shots and really couldn't replicate it, regardless of the settings. Even went into the garage and took a pic in the dark and I still don't see much banding - there is a little chroma noise on the wall here, but otherwise, it's pretty clean.
Who knows - maybe it was just a peculiarity of the lighting in that one shot, but suffice it to say, there is no issue here. Very pleased with the camera so far, looks like a keeper.
p.2 #20 · Is this normal banding behavior on 5d3? Please see pic...
rk-d wrote:
I am testing out my new 5D3 - I have a couple weeks left on my return window and I shot a few random shots with a 35L today. I noticed some shadow banding at ISO 6400.
This is an OOC JPEG. Note the banding in the shadows. I need to know if I should exchange the camera, or if this others have similar results at >ISO 6400. I rarely if ever shoot in these conditions (single light source, dark room, high ISO), so avoiding the problem is not a big deal. That said, if this is abnormal, I need to exchange the camera.
