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| p.4 #7 · Sony and Panasonic in trouble? |
I'm not sure I would agree that "very few" compact users use zoom... but...
I definitely see that the development of digital cameras has reached a plateau, that reminds me a lot about the film camera situation in the late 80s.
I didn't notice any plateau back then. We were getting faster and faster shutters, longer lived shutters, better and better metering, integrated on-board computing, faster/better/more AF, and all kinds of convenience features like built-in auto-winding and EOR detection/rewinding. etc. etc. It seemed steadily ongoing to me until about the time Nikon released their first "pro" digital camera. And then it was all about tooling up for digital production. But I didn't notice any lull in the pace of technological rollouts prior to that.
That being said, I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't queasy about the money I've put into micro4/3 lenses, and that the resale value of the stuff might not be 1/3 of what I paid because Oly/Panny might discontinue making m4/3 cameras for whatever reason. I don't think similar risk exists with Canikon or Sony.
Most japanese junksters (Sony, Panasonic, Ricoh, etc.) manufactured electronic goods already devalue to 1/3 MSRP price in a few years anyway so I don't see any difference there. GH1 was about $900 new right? These days it's $250. GH2 was also near $1k and today it's easily found for under or around $500 - and it'll continue to go down as well. Meanwhile something like the Canon 1Dm2 is still selling up around $800 even after 6 or 7 years. (wait, how old is the 1Dm2?) Lenses aren't much different either. The Lumix 100-300 for example held at around $800 (or $850 ?) for over half a year but now around two years later what does it go for, $400 somewhere? Whattya wanna bet than in the 1st quarter of 2014 it's selling for $200 or so?
Almost everything that comes from asia's mass-production assembly lines is like that. Cars, electronics, cameras, and so on.
Well, the gh2 sells at 50% discount after 3 years and your Canon at 80% discount after 6. I bet you could get more than $200 for any gh2 in 3 years. That's about same rate of depreciation. How is Canon doing any better not to mention that you have to spend 4x more to get the Canon compared with Panasonic?
Sure OK, I don't really follow high end camera depreciation so probably right. The main point I was making is that M4/3 will depreciate regardless of weather or not the companies are in trouble. If you're like me at all when you go to sell it off it won't be worth squat. And again, true of most asain mass produced goods.
Ya know I wouldn't even mind asian megacorps reaching across the waters if they had played fairly. Most of my distain comes from the knowledge I gained as part of a security team for various semiconductor manufacturers. Wow, the number of Japanese janitor slash spys we busted were many and constant. And it always traced back to companies like Hitachi, Sony, Matsusta, and so on. Nope, no love for those guys!
The US and UK companies that do location manufacturing and assembly can bid for the contracts when some US or UK corporation takes over.
US Megacorps don't need janitor spies -- they just use technology like Echelon to win contract bids, right?
If they were more sophisticated, they would just employ hackers to gain access to competitors' internal systems, like the Chinese companies do.
Yeah, who knows how it's done these days. I know in the early 80's late 70's that it was Janitors and planted employees - and often sent from the corporation itself "unofficially" (wink wink) as opposed to independent freelancers. At least true of the guys I got to question after arresting them. I'm also under the impression that during that time period US spying was mostly limited to national secrets and so forth. We didn't do much industrial spying back then. I'll assume we still don't. Our level of cheating usually begins and ends with backward engineering and so forth. Well, that and financial mobsterism.