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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · New to monitor calibration (ColorMunki) and printing (WHCC) | |
Eyeball wrote:
Could try to explain how the monitor and prints differ (color, contrast, brightness)?
Could you describe your proofing procedure in a bit more detail? I assume you are comparing soft-proofing in CS5 with the new soft-proofing feature in LR4, both using the WHCC profile in the soft-proofing profile. Correct?
Does the Colormunki give you a luminosity reading on the monitor? If so, what is it? A too-bright monitor is the culprit in many cases when trying to match to prints but not sure in your case.
Viewing technique (looking away from the screen while activating soft-proofing, for example) and ambient lighting can also play a role in having a satisfactory soft-proofing experience....Show more →
Eyeball, my apologies for not getting back with you sooner...
Could try to explain how the monitor and prints differ (color, contrast, brightness)?
I have created a gallery of the five test shots I sent in, they can be viewed here: http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/26326552_ZLCPXW#!i=2193654817&k=h2pBVrC
The images are below, I'll try to explain the differences for each one.
Could you describe your proofing procedure in a bit more detail?
By proofing, I've loaded the different proofing downloads from WHCC into CS5 and LR4 for a few of their different papers (i.e.-glossy, metallic, lustre). I'm checking either the "Soft Proofing" box in the Develop Module of LR4 or the "Proof Colors" option under the View tab in CS5. This is done after the WHCC profiles are loaded so first I must go to View in CS5, then Proof Setup and select the paper and size I'm interested in printing on. This is supposed to render a preview of what the image should look like using that specific paper with WHCC. At least that's how I understand it.
I assume you are comparing soft-proofing in CS5 with the new soft-proofing feature in LR4, both using the WHCC profile in the soft-proofing profile. Correct?
When comparing, the same image looks identical when viewed side by side with CS5 and LR4 with soft proofing OFF. When proofing, they look different. When I originally posted my question asking why they looked different I think I must have opened a different file in PS instead of the same exact one using Ctrl + E in LR4 to get it to open in CS5 if that makes sense. I have the RAW file with LR adjustments, plus an exported JPG, plus another exported JPG used to send in to WHCC which I later imported back into LR. Once I opened the WHCC file in LR followed by opening it in PS CS5 they looked identical. Long story short, I believe I was viewing two separate versions of the same image which tricked me into thinking they were being displayed differently.
Does the Colormunki give you a luminosity reading on the monitor? If so, what is it?
I'm not sure I know how to check it. When I'm profiling the monitor, it gave me a reading of 143, but that's the only time I see any numerical value displayed.
http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/i-h2pBVrC/0/X2/IMG_8828-X2.jpg
1. My monitor shows this image as being black and white. The print appears to have a slight yellow or brown tone to it like sepia.
http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/i-bRLLgKh/0/X2/IMG_8869rev-X2.jpg
2. The print seems to have a bit more red in her skin tones than the image on my monitor. The dress in the print appears to have a yellowish color to it (not sure if hue is the right word to describe it, I don't know enough about color to accurately describe what I'm seeing). Her skin tone actually looks better in the print IMO. Also, the word "Cola" on the cooler is closer to white on my monitor, but slightly saturated with red on the print. The highlights in the windows are brighter on my monitor than the print. The left window, upper right pane, shows an orange/red roof. The print shows more clarity than the monitor with this...more color.
http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/i-pQw2Kpv/0/X2/IMG_9292-X2.jpg
3. The print seems darker overall, less detail in the shadows than what I see on my monitor. Also, the entire image, especially the truck, look a tad more vibrant than monitor. Her skin tone on the print almost looks a bit orange as if there's a color cast from the truck on her...monitor, not so much.
http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/i-BwmNmdv/0/X2/IMG_3873-X2.jpg
4. Print looks a little darker overall with, yet again, a tad bit of yellowish color to it. Starting to think the printer adds a bit of contrast? I've always thought the girl here was a bit underexposed, but it's more noticeable in the print. The greens in the upper right look very close between print and monitor. Highlights of the waterfall, yellowish on the print, whiter on the monitor. Color of the dress and roses look similar between the two, but darker overall in the print.
http://www.kcrawphotography.com/People/TEST/i-kSgsFFs/0/X2/IMG_9715-X2.jpg
5. There's a huge difference in color between the image when proofed/not proofed. LR4 has a destination gamut warning when proofing and the almost the entire image was highlighted with the warning. The print falls almost half way between the soft proof and normal preview. The gamut warning is the reason I selected this image to test, curious to see what the reds would do when printed.
Overall, it seems as though most of the prints contained a bit more contrast and yellow than the monitor previews.
Okay, so the ambient light in my room, which is currently my dorm room overseas, has some sort of bulbs that I can't see due to how the room is constructed, but they bounce off a yellowish wall. I suspect this light is throwing yellow onto the prints, but I don't have a laptop here to move to another location and compare again. It's usually dark out when I review/edit here so I have to use the light. I'm guessing the ColorMunki is doing a good job of adjusting for this with my monitor?? BTW, only the pepper shot was taken here in Korea and edited here. The other shots were taken before I moved here and edited under different lighting conditions before calibrating my monitor.
Thanks again for looking and offering your help!
Kevin
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