p.1 #3 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
Not really strange. There are a lot of canon users out there with a bunch of EF lenses who find this the perfect camera and won't consider a NEX or OMD just because they are faster or better. The M might be slow in focus, its the only real mirror less to use EF lenses on. Besides it being a canon.
p.1 #5 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
Bijltje wrote:
Not really strange. There are a lot of canon users out there with a bunch of EF lenses who find this the perfect camera and won't consider a NEX or OMD just because they are faster or better. The M might be slow in focus, its the only real mirror less to use EF lenses on. Besides it being a canon.
Which is funny, because an AF capable EF-E adapter just shipped and there's been fully coupled E-EF adapters for quite a while. The EOS-M isn't even the best Mirrorless to use EF lenses on (the NEX-7 owns that distinction).
Frankly, I'm unsurprised that the EOS-M did well though, it benefits from name recognition, distribution and not being limited by a poor choice in sensor size (a la Nikon 1 and Pentax Q)
p.1 #6 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
mawz wrote:
Frankly, I'm unsurprised that the EOS-M did well though, it benefits from name recognition, distribution and not being limited by a poor choice in sensor size (a la Nikon 1 and Pentax Q)
I'm surprised that the Pentax Q is outselling the Sony Nex C3/F3 and the Olympus E-PL5 in Japan. I know they might like the body styling of the Pentax Q there but I would gladly take the Nex cameras or the Olympus over it.
p.1 #7 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
Which is the autofocus capable EF-E adapter? I thought the metabones adapter only allowed control of the aperture, not autofocus?
mawz wrote:
Which is funny, because an AF capable EF-E adapter just shipped and there's been fully coupled E-EF adapters for quite a while. The EOS-M isn't even the best Mirrorless to use EF lenses on (the NEX-7 owns that distinction).
Frankly, I'm unsurprised that the EOS-M did well though, it benefits from name recognition, distribution and not being limited by a poor choice in sensor size (a la Nikon 1 and Pentax Q)
p.1 #9 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
mawz wrote:
Which is funny, because an AF capable EF-E adapter just shipped and there's been fully coupled E-EF adapters for quite a while. The EOS-M isn't even the best Mirrorless to use EF lenses on (the NEX-7 owns that distinction).
Frankly, I'm unsurprised that the EOS-M did well though, it benefits from name recognition, distribution and not being limited by a poor choice in sensor size (a la Nikon 1 and Pentax Q)
U mean that 300 dollar metabone adapter, with who knows how fast focusspeed. My money would be on the canon version when I had some EF lenses. Its 1/3 of the metabone price, and u know it will work flawless.
p.1 #10 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
The problem is, EOS lens AF crawls on mirrorless, no matter which adapter you use. You're pretty much going to be manual focusing, either way, unless Canon comes up with an adapter like the LA-EA2.
p.1 #11 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
I believe MX Camera is now shipping an E-Mount adapter with AF for EF lenses,
Nikon G lens adapter is next I think.
If the EOS M had an EVF & focus peaking, I might have seriously considered it,
I just hope their "We have no plans on making a pro model" is code for "We can't comment on what we're doing"
p.1 #12 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
This doesn't say much about real retail sales of the EOS-M to consumers yet. Read carefully how the market analysis method is done. They did count the cameras on the shelf in the stores! A well know method for retail analysis, but especially at introduction time of a new model this is a method known for its bias. All the stores want to have the new model on the shelves, but as we all know the success is going to be measured by the amounts really sold to the consumer.
I predict that the EOS-M is not going to be as succesful as the Sony NEX and Olympus OM-D cameras because price performance ratio of those offerings are way better. Even when (in the Japanese market!) the EOS-M could have a short term real sales peak because of the 'backlog' Canon has in comparison to the competition, this model just has too little, too late and a price tag that aims at the more serious enthusiast photographer, rather than the entry level amateur. These enthusiasts are in general well informed and know about the better alternatives.
To be more succesful Canon will have to add: better AF performance, an articulated screen and/or WiFi and/or an additional EVF. At this price point the compatibility with EF and EF-s lenses is just not enough to convince the greatest part of EOS users, leave alone those from other camps. As said, the alternatives from e.g. Sony, Olympus and Panasonic are much better offerings.
p.1 #13 · Mirrorless BCN Ranking (Canon EOS M ~10% Market Share)
Yes, the MX camera adapter is the one I was referring to. Based on the videos they posted, AF speed is comparable to the LA-EA1 adapter and Sony lenses (IE awful with non-Ring type USM lenses, bad with Ring-type USM). But the EOS-M only has decent AF with a couple EF lenses (the 40 pancake and the 18-135 STM), otherwise it's bad.
I suspect the EOS-M will be a solid seller to consumers, but probably won't outsell the cheaper and better Sony's (the EOS-M is priced in NEX-5R territory for a camera which is at best comparable to the NEX-F3)
