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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


So I hear over and over that people shoot landscapes with lenses that are sharper at the corner than the 16-35.. so it got me thinking...

What do you use yours for? Is YOUR 16-35 sharp at the corners for landscapes?

Ryan G



Oct 21, 2012 at 02:02 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have the 16-35 mark II and it's a wonderful lens. Mine is very sharp corner to corner and a much better lens than the mark I. I use mine for environmental portraiture and landscapes.


Oct 21, 2012 at 03:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


vidoprof wrote:
So I hear over and over that people shoot landscapes with lenses that are sharper at the corner than the 16-35.. so it got me thinking...

What do you use yours for? Is YOUR 16-35 sharp at the corners for landscapes?

Ryan G


Corners are normally weak part of any super-wide lens. Mine is sharp enough for web shots I normally do. It is great for travel and landscapes, low lights shots handheld and night shots. It adds unique contrast and colors and required min PP in this area. Recently I did group shot of people with it with great return as well. There are several other better corner performers from Zeiss, Nikon and Canon but I would suggest 14L, possibly next prime I will get.



Oct 21, 2012 at 05:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


vidoprof wrote:
So I hear over and over that people shoot landscapes with lenses that are sharper at the corner than the 16-35.. so it got me thinking... What do you use yours for? Is YOUR 16-35 sharp at the corners for landscapes?


Which 16-35? Nikon 16-35? Canon 16-35 L? Canon 16-35 L Mark II? Tokina 16-28?

What are looking for to get resolved with this thread? Is there a lens you are considering? Why do you say 16-35 and why say landscapes? Would you consider 14-24? How about architecture and interiors? Must it be a zoom? Is your camera a crop factor or a full-frame?

I bought a Tokina 16-28 f/2.8 a month ago because it is very sharp, sharper than the Canon 16-35 L original and almost as sharp as the Mark II which costs over twice as much. It barrel distorts less than the Mark II and the Nikon and almost all most super wide primes so you avoid wavy horizons and bulging buildings. Oh, among other things I use the lens for, I do enjoy making landscapes with it.

Lots of people who photograph landscapes do so around f/11, which will be quite sharp in almost all lenses.



Oct 21, 2012 at 06:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


Yes, my 16-35II is sharp enough in the corners at f/8 to f/11 to handle travel, architecture and landscape. It is nearly as sharp in corners at smaller apertures as the Zeiss ZE 21/2.8, plus has AF and the whole zoom range instead of just 21mm. (But the Zeiss is sharper overall at all apertures.) I get by very well with the 16-35II and 24 TS-E II to cover my wide angle needs.


Oct 21, 2012 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have the 16-35 mkI not supposed to be as sharp as the II, and by f7.1 it is sharp across the frame. I use mine for travel/street photography.
It is indeed quite soft at 2.8, but when used at 2.8, it is either in very dim light or I want to blur the background so for me it is not a big issue.

Here is an example stopped down it is sharp.
It is on a 5D, 16 mm, ISO 100, f13







Oct 21, 2012 at 08:20 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


Very nice shot, didierv!


Oct 21, 2012 at 08:26 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


The 16-35 I is on my APS-H camera more than any other lens, playing the same role that the 50mm lens did on my old film camera in the days before decent zoom lenses.


Oct 21, 2012 at 09:50 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have owned both versions of 16-35, as well as nikon 14-24, all shot on 5d2/5d3. the 16-35 II not only improved on corner sharpness on the wide end, it also improved on CA, and flare, the latter a fair bit. I use it both at 2.8 for "environmental portraits) and stopped down as a landscape lens. it is also my favorite video lens, all on full frame.
It is sharp at f8-f11, may be with the exception of the very extreme corner. Is it as sharp as 14-24 2.8? well certainly not bellow f5.6 away from the center, and even at f11, the extreme corners, the nikon does ever so slightly better. however, it easily takes filters and is relatively flare resistant (two big weaknesses of Nikon) and reasonably sized, weather sealed, very fast and accurate autofocus, and despite owning many hight quality ultrawides (24 1.4 II, 24 tse II, samyang 14, nikon 14-24) it remains my most used and most versatile lens.
10 shot panoramic landscape with a 2 stop gnd





"environmental portairts)
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and one with the original 16-35, at 16







Oct 22, 2012 at 01:31 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


Sure some of the primes are better in the corners - I owned a 14mm II for a while, which was sharper in the corners but couldn't take filters and is still f/2.8. It's just not as flexible as a zoom. I couldn't justify owning both so I sold the prime.

The corners may not be perfect, but you can work around this. There is seldom important detail in the corner of a picture anyway.

Being an f/2.8 zoom, it's a very flexible lens, and I use mine for everything from landscapes to low-light dance floor shots.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


kevindar wrote:
I have owned both versions of 16-35, as well as nikon 14-24, all shot on 5d2/5d3. the 16-35 II not only improved on corner sharpness on the wide end, it also improved on CA, and flare, the latter a fair bit. I use it both at 2.8 for "environmental portraits) and stopped down as a landscape lens. it is also my favorite video lens, all on full frame.
It is sharp at f8-f11, may be with the exception of the very extreme corner. Is it as sharp as 14-24 2.8? well certainly not bellow f5.6 away from the center, and
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You know me, I have a 17-40 and seldom use it because I don't like the edges and corners and rt lt edges. I just did a compare between the 17-40 and my 24-70 f2.8 at 24f8 and to my 17TSE at 17 f8. It was noticeably softer in all corners and had less contrast everywhere.

Some say the 17-40 is as good as the 16-24 mk2 when both are at landscape apertures. Photozone results say otherwise but I have been reluctant to gamble and get bitten by another poor corner zoom lens.

So how would you advise about adding this lens as the UWA match to my 24-70? I would sell the 24TSE and keep the Samyang 14 and the 17TSE for those special occasions.

If I did so, and it was good enough, it would mean not adding the Zeiss 15 when it arrives.

Also, can you use it at f2.8 for star shots?

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Oct 22, 2012 at 02:18 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


Lovely.

didierv wrote:
I have the 16-35 mkI not supposed to be as sharp as the II, and by f7.1 it is sharp across the frame. I use mine for travel/street photography.
It is indeed quite soft at 2.8, but when used at 2.8, it is either in very dim light or I want to blur the background so for me it is not a big issue.

Here is an example stopped down it is sharp.
It is on a 5D, 16 mm, ISO 100, f13
http://www.pbase.com/didierv/image/145464532/original.jpg




Oct 22, 2012 at 02:22 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


ben egbert wrote:
You know me, I have a 17-40 and seldom use it because I don't like the edges and corners and rt lt edges. I just did a compare between the 17-40 and my 24-70 f2.8 at 24f8 and to my 17TSE at 17 f8. It was noticeably softer in all corners and had less contrast everywhere.

Some say the 17-40 is as good as the 16-24 mk2 when both are at landscape apertures. Photozone results say otherwise but I have been reluctant to gamble and get bitten by another poor corner zoom lens.

So how would you advise about adding this
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I tested my copy of the 16-35 II against a 17-40 and saw little difference; if you want critical sharpness all the way to the corners I'd stick with the TSE.

Yes, you can use it at f/2.8 for star shots.



Oct 22, 2012 at 02:29 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have the 17-40 so ill just speak to this focal range. if I constantly shot landscapes for medium/large prints I would be pretty unhappy with optical performance.

that said, it's the ultimate documentary/reportage lens, as you can really get the viewer into the story even being right in the action. 17 is super wide and behaves as such, but you can pull off environmental portraits at 40mm so it's incredibly flexible. i actually keep it at 40mm and back it off from there most of the time. AF is fast and build quality is great.

I've used it some for landscape and am generally unimpressed with the results. but it delivers the goods when shooting people/indoors/in tight places or up close (as long as you watch distortion on the wide end), so if that's your style of shooting absolutely go for it. the range is very versatile.



Oct 22, 2012 at 03:16 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


that said, I'm not saying you can't get great results using this for landscape. I'm just saying if I were a hardcore landscape guy I'd want something that emphasized optical quality across the frame more than the versatility found here


Oct 22, 2012 at 03:18 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


vidoprof wrote:
So I hear over and over that people shoot landscapes with lenses that are sharper at the corner than the 16-35.. so it got me thinking...

What do you use yours for? Is YOUR 16-35 sharp at the corners for landscapes?

Ryan G


I have 16-35 mk II and I use it to shoot landscape……and Yes, it is very sharp.



Oct 22, 2012 at 03:56 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


Ben, I compared one copy of 17-40 agains the 16-35 II. the 16-35II had less distortion, better micro contrast, and definitely sharper in the edges/corners at f11. I know you already have the 24-70 II, and find it prime sharp. the 16-35II is not prime sharp, and if you compare it to your 17 tse, I am affraid you will be diasspointed in the corners. However, for my use, the corners are quite servicable. I recently posted a link to full size at 24 mm, here it is again, at f11. as you can see, the extreme corners are still not really sharp, but its only the extreme corners, and question is if you have important detial there. the edges are sharp
24mm f11

16 mm, at f11

18 f 11

20 f11

28 f11

35 f11, the weakest focal lengthe for the lens

If you wanted to loan my lens for a while let me know, and we can arrage something, as with two young kids, I am not shooting much landscape, and can let go of it for a couple of weeks.
again, its not a perfect lens, Its very good and very versatile.




Oct 22, 2012 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


My 17-40 was softer at F4 than my 16-35mk2 at 2.8. Switched to the 16-35mk2 and haven't looked back. Used the 17-40 for at least 5 years before I switched though (couldn't afford the 16-35mk2 when I started out).


Oct 22, 2012 at 04:37 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have a 16-35mm mark I that I tend to use a lot when shooting concerts and on newspaper assignments when I can. The UWA perspective is absolutely great when able to get close. The corner sharpness is pretty bad, but if/when I do landscape I usually just use my 24-70 if sharpness is a worry. The landscape stuff is more for fun, but I do need to upgrade to the mark ii version sometimes anyhow.

Here's one example of an assignment that I most used my 16-35 for, a young girls synchronized swimming team getting trained by a few former Olympians: http://www.lvrj.com/multimedia/Former-Olympian-sycronized-swimmers-work-with-Desert-Mermaids-167458045.html



Oct 22, 2012 at 05:21 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 16-35 - What do you shoot with it?


I have the 16-35 II, 14mm II and TS-E 17. The 16-35 is a great lens and I wouldn’t hesitate to use it for landscape stopped down. Since I’ve been using the TS-E 17 I really want the TS-E 24mm II……and I just don’t use the 16-35 much.

Ben your comment is interesting and got me thinking because I’m going the other way…….I’ve just ordered the 24-70 today, but I can’t afford the TS-E 24 also; so I’m selling or trading my 16-35 II for a TS-E 24 II.

I guess it just depends on what range the photog finds himself using most often.



Oct 22, 2012 at 06:52 AM
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