Does anyone else think it strange that Nikon would include this in the d600 but not the d800? Via custom function e4 in both the D4 and d600 a person can separate the exposure. I know this can be done manually but it just seems odd that this was not included in the d800.
I had heard it was available on the D4 and just assumed it was on my D800 too. Oh well, I wouldn't change it anyway - I prefer and I am accustomed to EC acting like a "global adjustment" affecting both ambient and flash exposure.
Correct me if i'm wrong....but isn't that what Flash Exposure Compensation is for?? You can dial in the flash exposure x number of stops above or below the metered value (ambient light)...
NathanHamler wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong....but isn't that what Flash Exposure Compensation is for?? You can dial in the flash exposure x number of stops above or below the metered value (ambient light)...
Camera exposure is set on the camera body and affects both ambient and flash exposure on Nikon cameras. Flash exposure is set on flash unit itself. Flash exposure compensation affects flash output only. Changing flash exposure doesn’t affect ambient exposure. With Nikon, the camera exposure compensation for ambient light and flash exposure compensation are cumulative when ambient light is low and flash is using as a main source of light. For example, if camera exposure compensation is set to +2.0 EV and flash is set to -2.0 EV, it would cancel each other resulting 0.0 EV for overall exposure compensation.
I'm failing to see how this is different than what's on the D600.....PERSONALLY i only ever shoot manual exposure mode when i'm shooting with flash....if you have your exposure, and flash exposure compensation at +/- 0.0, and the flash is in TTL mode, the flash will pop with enough power to generate what the camera's meter thinks is proper exposure....if it's too hot, you turn your flash exposure compensation down.....if you try and treat it like manual flash, and you just drop your aperture, the flash will just compensate and pump out more light to still give what it thinks is proper exposure...
I guess i don't understand b/c i never shoot in AV or TV or P mode with flash....
D800 was ready to go BEFORE the D4 and D600. If the D800 was ready at the same time as the D4 it would have had XQD as well since it would have benefited from it way more. Just because they outed the D800 after the D4 doesn't mean it was newer. The D4 needed to come out ASAP for the Olympics.
However what I don't understand is why is the great U1/U2 mode on the D7000 and now the D600 but not even in the D800/D4. How is that a consumer feature, that should be a general feature! Heck they even put it on the P7000/7100/7700.
NathanHamler wrote:
I'm failing to see how this is different than what's on the D600
The OP's point is that the D4 and D600 (but not the D800) have a new option to allow you to change it so exposure compensation affects only the ambient exposure. Normally with Nikon cameras, EC is a global adjustment affecting both ambient and flash.
Just because you prefer to shoot in manual exposure mode doesn't mean EC doesn't apply to you. Try it sometime - you will see that the flash output comes down if you use EC regardless of your exposure mode (unless you have a D4 or D600 and change the setting we're talking about). Plus, if you use auto ISO in manual exposure mode, EC will be able to affect the ambient exposure as well even in manual exposure mode.
Bruce Sawle wrote:
Camera exposure is set on the camera body and affects both ambient and flash exposure on Nikon cameras. Flash exposure is set on flash unit itself.
Yea but if you push the flash button on the camera and rotate a dial you can also adjust the flash exposure.
Cool feature. Could have done with that last week.
At the end of the day when it gets tricky, I shoot manual. Get the flash exposure sorted and adjust Shutter to increase/decrease ambient because I dont trust how iTTL is going to interpet what I want. Seperating flash from ambient EC is a good thing if you ask me. Wish the D800 did it!
The clever Flash metering system and cumulative EC has its benefits, but I prefer to keep it simple - got enough to worry about on a shoot without trying to figure out what iTTL is doing to my exposure all the time.
