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p.3 #1 · How much does WB matter?


Inku Yo wrote:
ShacharLee wrote:
Inku Yo wrote:
ShacharLee wrote:
mccallmedia wrote:
Inku Yo wrote:
TRReichman wrote:
What all do we have to think about that WB is so hard to manage?

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Observing. Moving from room to room/mixed lighting situations. I'd rather keep my eye on the action than be looking down adjusting settings every time I move. That's just me, though.


+1. The last wedding I shot solo. The bride and bridesmaids were getting ready in a room lit solely by tungsten. The guys were in an room close by with lots of window light coming in. As I walked from the room the girls were getting ready in I caught a quick moment occurring between family outside which I shot quickly through the living room window. I barely had time to adjust my exposure for the outside light before the moment was gone, but I caught it.

It's times like these that I'm glad I don't have to worry about switching my WB or whipping out a gray card. I can adjust shutter, aperture, ISO, focus point, AF mode, burst mode, etc without taking my eye out of the viewfinder. But I have to take the camera off my face and look down at it for WB. And a gray card adds even more time to the equation.


Just because we try to get it right in camera doesn't mean we do not shoot raw and we can't change it in post you know if I don't have time and I want to grab something real fast than I can just leave it as is and change it later, yes I might get this one image really off but I rather have a few way off than all the images a little off.

You are all talking like the viewfinder is glued to your eyes all day, OK I get that's sometimes thing go real fast and you barley have time to even set exposure (although I assume you don't switch to P mode just to not miss anything...) but what about most of the times when you do have time, why not at least try to get it right then?



Are you saying you get WB perfect in camera all the time and NEVER have to adjust in post?

AWB = one less thing I have to worry about.


Of curse not! but I adjust it a lot less now than when I used to shoot in auto and even better than this is I can see right there in the moment pretty much what my final image is going to like and I don't have to imagine what it would look like with a different WB.
I never worry about it because I know I can always fix it later if I set it up wrong or didn't have time to set it up at all but if I have the time than why not try to get it right? after a while you kind of learn just by looking around you what is the correct kelvin so i'ts easy.


Not really debating the ease in which to set WB. It's easy, no doubt. But, if you're going to fix it or adjust it later, why even worry about it at all?


Because I usually only adjust WB in about 20% of my images (mostly getting ready) and because I usually hate the WB auto chooses and I want to see right there in the moment what my image looks like with the WB I like.

Inku Yo wrote:
What K do you set it for when the lights are on and there's a window in the room? Some people hanging by the window and some over on the couch by the lamps? Moments happening in both locations?


That's easy, in that case I'll just shoot a very wide B&W
Maybe our style of shooting is just different, I'm not really a fast snapper kind of girl (and if I did I promise you WB would be the least of my concerns ) and most of the time I don't really feel the need to be. If I'm in a room with multiple things happening in different areas, like mom getting ready at one corner and bride getting ready at the other, I will just shoot one thing at the time, go to the bride get all my camera setting right, my composition, angle etc, take a few shots and then move on and do the same with mom, and if something really interesting happens really fast with the bride while I'm shooting mom then I'll do almost the same as you, leave the WB as is and fix it in post, but like I said most of the time I don't feel that rushed that I can't spare a second or two to move my eye from the viewfinder, also I find extreme fast variables lighting temp situations are not that common in most of the wedding day.



Oct 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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So, you sacrifice composition and action for white balance?


Oct 18, 2012 at 03:38 PM
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p.3 #3 · How much does WB matter?


ive found that "corrected" WB often looks like crap to people who were actually there. its usually far too cool.


Oct 18, 2012 at 03:41 PM
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p.3 #4 · How much does WB matter?


AWB 90% of the time. I set it to tungsten when I gel my flash.


Oct 18, 2012 at 03:47 PM
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Sergio Mottola wrote:
ive found that "corrected" WB often looks like crap to people who were actually there. its usually far too cool.


Beyond truth. I push 500 kelvin from correction nearly 100% of the time.

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p.3 #6 · How much does WB matter?


amonline wrote:
I push 500 kelvin over the conditions nearly 100% of the time.


That's quite warm.



Oct 18, 2012 at 05:21 PM
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p.3 #7 · How much does WB matter?


amonline wrote:
So, you sacrifice composition and action for white balance?

Where did you get that from ??
I set WB when I have time, if I don't have time I leave it as is (from the time I previously set it), most of the times I have plenty of time.nothing is being sacrificed.

Why leave it at auto in times you do have time to set it up like you want it?
You know if you screwed up you can always fix it in post like you would in auto so what are you so afraid of?



Oct 18, 2012 at 05:40 PM
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p.3 #8 · How much does WB matter?


D. Diggler wrote:
amonline wrote:
I push 500 kelvin over the conditions nearly 100% of the time.


That's quite warm.


Sorry, I meant from corrected... and it's usually true to the eye and memory.



Oct 18, 2012 at 05:58 PM
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p.3 #9 · How much does WB matter?


ShacharLee wrote:
Where did you get that from ??


ShacharLee wrote:...If I'm in a room with multiple things happening in different areas, like mom getting ready at one corner and bride getting ready at the other, I will just shoot one thing at the time, go to the bride get all my camera setting right, my composition, angle etc, take a few shots and then move on and do the same with mom...

ShacharLee wrote:Why leave it at auto in times you do have time to set it up like you want it?
You know if you screwed up you can always fix it in post like you would in auto so what are you so afraid of?


If you had read my previous posts, you'd have noticed that I said I do.



Oct 18, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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p.3 #10 · How much does WB matter?


ShacharLee wrote:
Maybe our style of shooting is just different, I'm not really a fast snapper kind of girl (and if I did I promise you WB would be the least of my concerns ) and most of the time I don't really feel the need to be. If I'm in a room with multiple things happening in different areas, like mom getting ready at one corner and bride getting ready at the other, I will just shoot one thing at the time, go to the bride get all my camera setting right, my composition, angle etc, take a few shots and then move on and do the same with mom, and if something really interesting happens really fast with the bride while I'm shooting mom then I'll do almost the same as you, leave the WB as is and fix it in post, but like I said most of the time I don't feel that rushed that I can't spare a second or two to move my eye from the viewfinder, also I find extreme fast variables lighting temp situations are not that common in most of the wedding day.


Yeah, I tend to try to concentrate on the entire scene, not just an area of the room. I look at the whole room and see what's going on.



Oct 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM
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