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p.8 #1 · Medium-Large Format tips

As long as the holder fits on the scanner glass, it ought to be okay.

Mar 19, 2013 at 08:21 AM

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p.8 #2 · Medium-Large Format tips

carstenw wrote:
As long as the holder fits on the scanner glass, it ought to be okay.
that's great, I can't wait to try it all out! My Rollei 6008 is on it's way! fedex tracking
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Mar 19, 2013 at 08:29 AM

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p.8 #3 · Medium-Large Format tips

carstenw wrote:
As long as the holder fits on the scanner glass, it ought to be okay.
i wonder if i should consider the cheaper AN glass from http://ehub36.webhostinghub.com/~fpoint5/store/agora.cgi 120MM OR 35MM

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Mar 19, 2013 at 08:40 AM

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p.8 #4 · Medium-Large Format tips

Hello, Everyone, Would someone explain to me what the focal lenghts of my Rollei 6008 medium format are really? I see it says 150mm and 80mm, is this what they are? i just dont get it, if it say 150mm on the lens, or 80mm, isnt that what they are? i see that it says online that the 80 is more like a 50mm? i tried those conversion, yet i am still confused! 1 80 mm Planar f 2.8 HFT PQS lens, with 80 mm B & W 091 MRC red filter attached
1 150 mm Sonnar f 4 HFT EL lens with front and back cap, warranty and test certificate included

Short telephoto lens for many applications. Primarily intended for portraiture, but also highly suitable for frame filling detail from greater distances.

Technical Specs
Construction 3 Groups/ 5 Elements
Angle of view 29 degrees
F stop range f/4-32
Closest Focusing Distance 1.4 m 4.6 ft
Filter Size 67mm
Dimensions (Length x Diameter) 102 x 81.5mm (4.02 x 3.2")
Weight 890g (31.4 oz)
Notes Shutter: Speed: 30secs - 1/500; PQ lenses work with all SLX and 6000 series cameras an offer a top shutter speed of 1/500sec. PQS lenses are intended ONLY for the 6001, 6003 and 6008 cameras and offer a top speed of 1/1000sec.

Flash Synchronization: PC sync-socket for electronic flash on camera body; flash sync possible at all speeds up to 1/500

Mar 21, 2013 at 09:45 AM

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p.8 #5 · Medium-Large Format tips

I think you are misunderstanding what focal length means. Specifically, focal length has no inherent associated angle of view. There is a relationship between focal length, angle of view, and projected image size.

For 6x6, 80mm is a normal lens, i.e. equivalent to about 45-50mm on FF DSLRs. 150mm is a short tele, something like 85-90mm on FF DSLRs. On 4x5" film, a 150mm would be about a normal lens, and on MFT, 150mm is a 300mm equivalent (on FF DSLRs) lens, for the angle of view.

A 50/80/150 kit on 6x6 would be about the same as a 30/50/90 set on a FF DSLR, i.e. almost the classical 28/50/90 kit.

Mar 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM

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carstenw wrote:
I think you are misunderstanding what focal length means. Specifically, focal length has no inherent associated angle of view. There is a relationship between focal length, angle of view, and projected image size.

For 6x6, 80mm is a normal lens, i.e. equivalent to about 45-50mm on FF DSLRs. 150mm is a short tele, something like 85-90mm on FF DSLRs. On 4x5" film, a 150mm would be about a normal lens, and on MFT, 150mm is a 300mm equivalent (on FF DSLRs) lens, for the angle of view.

A 50/80/150 kit on 6x6 would be about the same as a 30/50/90 set on a FF DSLR, i.e. almost the classical 28/50/90 kit.
carstenw, thank you for the thorough info, i appreciate it greatly! i guess my best bet is to use it and see once it arrives Friday my time!! i cant wait!

Mar 21, 2013 at 03:43 PM

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carstenw wrote:
I think you are misunderstanding what focal length means. Specifically, focal length has no inherent associated angle of view. There is a relationship between focal length, angle of view, and projected image size.

For 6x6, 80mm is a normal lens, i.e. equivalent to about 45-50mm on FF DSLRs. 150mm is a short tele, something like 85-90mm on FF DSLRs. On 4x5" film, a 150mm would be about a normal lens, and on MFT, 150mm is a 300mm equivalent (on FF DSLRs) lens, for the angle of view.

A 50/80/150 kit on 6x6 would be about the same as a 30/50/90 set on a FF DSLR, i.e. almost the classical 28/50/90 kit.

i wonder if the previoys owner new this? i ask because the 150mm and 80mm seem so near each others equal!

Mar 21, 2013 at 04:21 PM

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so many film choices, so little time,oh, and money! However, would someone kindly direct me to what would be considered the "best" low grain color film, in case I haven't purchased any yet! I also have some name brand b&W coming, but what is available, if say i want to shoot bw with higher artistic like grain, or could i just up the iso in camera, despite the film having an ISO of say 800? thanks for the aid to such a mixed up new film user!!

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:02 PM

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p.8 #9 · Medium-Large Format tips

Hello, and thank you! Are all films capable of being scanned at home, with an epson V500 btw? Say for instance this brand, and type?
Ilford XP-2 Super 120 Black & White (Chromogenic C-41) Print Film (ISO-400)

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:05 PM

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p.8 #10 · Medium-Large Format tips

150mm is the classic portrait lens on 6x6, whereas 80mm is the normal lens. I am a bit surprised that you got those two, but not a wide. Maybe he was a studio user?

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:14 PM

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p.8 #11 · Medium-Large Format tips

All films are capable of being scanned at home, including the XP-2 you mentioned.

If you like traditional b/w grain, I'd start with Tri-X, which is an ISO400 film. You can't change the ISO with a film camera the way you do with a DSLR. You can however shoot the camera as if you had used a higher ISO, and then adjust the developing time- this is called push developing, and is only really an option if you're developing yourself.

If what you want from your color film is low grain, I'd look at something like Ektar, but I'd actually suggest starting with an ISO 400 film that is more forgiving. I'd try both Portra and Fuji 400H and see what you like.

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:19 PM

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p.8 #12 · Medium-Large Format tips

carstenw wrote:
150mm is the classic portrait lens on 6x6, whereas 80mm is the normal lens. I am a bit surprised that you got those two, but not a wide. Maybe he was a studio user?
Yes, I think so, that was my impression as well, since they seem to have the same focal lengths that seem geared toward portraiture! the seller had mentioned that it is a professional for studio use camera! i just hope it wasn't to used!!?

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:24 PM

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alwang wrote:
All films are capable of being scanned at home, including the XP-2 you mentioned.

If you like traditional b/w grain, I'd start with Tri-X, which is an ISO400 film. You can't change the ISO with a film camera the way you do with a DSLR. You can however shoot the camera as if you had used a higher ISO, and then adjust the developing time- this is called push developing, and is only really an option if you're developing yourself.

If what you want from your color film is low grain, I'd look at something like Ektar, but I'd actually suggest starting with an ISO 400 film that is more forgiving. I'd try both Portra and Fuji 400H and see what you like.
Awesome, thanks! So far i have these, two 10 PRINTS FUJIFILM FP3000B INSTANT B&W FILM EXPIRES 04/201 for the polaroid back, Fuji Velvia RVP 100 120mm Color Slide Film #15542522
Fujifilm Fujichrome Velvia RVP 100 Color Slide Film, 1 FujiFilm FP-100C Instant Colour Film - Professional, and one more i cant recall, just to start learning!!

Mar 21, 2013 at 05:28 PM

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...this is called push developing, and is only really an option if you're developing yourself.

Time for a new lab - I have never had anybody tell me they wouldn't push/pull my film for me...

Mar 21, 2013 at 06:28 PM

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alwang wrote:
...this is called push developing, and is only really an option if you're developing yourself.

Time for a new lab - I have never had anybody tell me they wouldn't push/pull my film for me...

Ah yes, of course you're right: I've been using Walmart so long to develop film for me that I forgot there are normal full-service labs.

Still I'd argue that if you're going to push/pull b/w film, you're better off having control over the process.

Mar 21, 2013 at 06:45 PM

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alwang wrote:
All films are capable of being scanned at home, including the XP-2 you mentioned.

If you like traditional b/w grain, I'd start with Tri-X, which is an ISO400 film. You can't change the ISO with a film camera the way you do with a DSLR. You can however shoot the camera as if you had used a higher ISO, and then adjust the developing time- this is called push developing, and is only really an option if you're developing yourself.

If what you want from your color film is low grain, I'd look at something like Ektar, but I'd actually suggest starting with an ISO 400 film that is more forgiving. I'd try both Portra and Fuji 400H and see what you like.
is there any 220 film? i cant seem to find any! i know its not needed per se, however, i do have the 220 back, so i may as well utilize it! Thanks again everyone!

Mar 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

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p.8 #17 · Medium-Large Format tips

I think 220 film is gone by now, possibly apart from expired stuff for experimentation.

Mar 21, 2013 at 11:35 PM

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p.8 #18 · Medium-Large Format tips

Kodak still makes Portra 160 and 400 in 220 format.

Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 AM

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p.8 #19 · Medium-Large Format tips

great advice everyone! the day of film will come tomorrow for me, my film brethren!

Mar 22, 2013 at 12:22 AM

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p.8 #20 · Medium-Large Format tips

yay its here, but i am busy, so, no film for me!

yay!

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Mar 22, 2013 at 06:48 PM

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