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Archive 2012 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)

  
 
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p.1 #1 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


So i just unpacked the D600. It seems to function as expected with 70-200 VR and 17-55 AFS-G (in DX crop mode) lenses. WIth 60 micro 2.8 AF-D it flashes "fEE" which means that lens is not stopped down to min aperature (largest number) even though lens is set on F22 (min). With MF Lenses (tried 3, all AIS), aperature displayed on camera does not change when I move the aperture ring on the lens. Tried both aperture priority and manual exposure modes. Display stays on f4 or f5.6 depending on the lens. I have set the non-CPU lens data and that doesn't help. Please tell me I am doing something wrong....


Oct 11, 2012 at 07:30 PM
Kerry Pierce
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p.1 #2 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


If your 60 AF-D has a lock switch on the aperture ring, that would be one way of making sure that you have it set properly. If not, I'd suggest putting the lens on the camera and rotating the aperture ring both directions to the stops.

I have an 85 f/1.8 AF-D that I just slapped on a d200. It has a locking switch on the aperture that allows it to be locked at f/16, min aperture for that lens. With the lens on the camera, rotating the aperture ring fully to the right, to the stop, is where the fEE disappears and the camera will work.

On this 85, there is a white line that is vertical to the aperture ring. That is the mark that tells you what setting this lens is on. It's also the mark that I use to line up the lens when putting the lens on the body. If your 60 has the same mark, it should work the same way.

Hope this helps.

Sorry, but I have no AI-S lenses, so I can't help you out there.

Kerry



Oct 11, 2012 at 09:01 PM
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p.1 #3 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Thanks for the help. I do have the AF-D lens locked into the largest numbered aperture. What you describe is what I experienced on my D300. But on the D600 it reads fEE no matter what aperture it is set on. Seems like I have a defective D600 from what I can tell.


Oct 11, 2012 at 09:29 PM
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p.1 #4 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Before you decide that you camera is defective, try taking a very clean eraser and clean the contacts on the lens. Follow that up by cleaning the contact area with a microclean cloth.


Oct 11, 2012 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Thanks. Tried that but no luck. It seems that it is related to the mechanical coupling between th body and these lenses with aperture rings. The body isn't detecting the position of the aperture ring properly. Pretty disappointing! One of the main reason sfor upgrading from D300 was to use some of the older MF lenses with the larger full frame viewfinder. Oh well, hopefully Robert 's Camera will make it right. Nikon phone support is out of ideas and says I can send back to them for repair or exchange with dealer. Not a good start...


Oct 11, 2012 at 10:46 PM
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p.1 #6 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Yup. Thom Hogan had similar problems with the D800/E. Some copies would work with AI/AIS lenses, some would not. Send it back.


Oct 12, 2012 at 12:06 AM
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p.1 #7 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Is the aperture lever bent or not making contact with the lens?


Oct 12, 2012 at 01:41 AM
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p.1 #8 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


The little aperture lever or tab on the body appears to be rotating when the lens aperture ring turns.


Oct 12, 2012 at 05:30 AM
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p.1 #9 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Good news: Robert's Camera has agreed to swap my defective D600 for a new one. Even sent me a paid shipping label for the return. Very professional! Hopefully I'll have better luck with the next one.


Oct 12, 2012 at 08:25 PM
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p.1 #10 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Yes, that is good news for you. Glad that you got it taken care of promptly and properly.




Oct 13, 2012 at 08:40 AM
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p.1 #11 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Let us know if the new one works okay.


Oct 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM
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p.1 #12 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Shouldn't the lens aperture be locked at the lowest F number (largest aperture)? I may be missing something in the description above.


Oct 14, 2012 at 07:31 AM
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p.1 #13 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


No, the lens ring is locked at min aperture, whatever the smallest aperture may be, ie f/16 or f/32. It's done that way to allow the body to set the aperture opening with the aperture control mechanism. The aperture blades are spring loaded to close to minimum aperture allowed by the aperture ring setting.

Both the body and lens have levers that contact when the lens is mounted. The body will open the aperture to max and leave it there until an instant before the shutter releases. It then allows the aperture to close to the desired opening for the exposure. If the aperture ring weren't locked at min aperture, then the body could only stop down to the point where the aperture ring was set, because it can't physically move the aperture ring.

IOW, if the aperture ring is set at f/2.8 on an f/2.8 lens, the camera has no aperture control at all.

Kerry



Oct 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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p.1 #14 · D600 - Odd behavior with AF-D and MF lenses (or I am stupid!)


Yes of course it locks to minimum aperture, thanks. Had a brain fade there.


Oct 15, 2012 at 04:48 PM





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