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p.1 #1 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Interesting test results, iphone 5 seem worse to upgrade if you are dealing with photos and videos.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6334/iphone-5-screen-performance



Oct 07, 2012 at 07:36 PM
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p.1 #2 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


"Wrapping up, the iPhone 5 display is a quantum leap better than the display on the iPhone 4. Contrast levels and light output have both been increased, and color performance is astonishing. The full sRGB gamut is present here, and color errors are remarkably low even for a high end desktop display."

How did you reach your conclusion?



Oct 07, 2012 at 08:47 PM
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p.1 #3 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Ummm speaking from experience the iphone 5 display is way better than my old iphone 4 which is now my wife's. I used it for 3 years and could immediately tell the 5's screen was way better.


Oct 07, 2012 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #4 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


I keep hearing this: "The full sRGB gamut is present..." From all kinds of folks...

I wonder how they are testing that?? Seems kinda like an over-repeated marketing blurb to me. <shrug>


Anyway I'm sure it's a good display... the ALL are these days!




Oct 08, 2012 at 08:13 AM
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p.1 #5 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Um, did you even read the link, Bif? They tested the gamut with dedicated hardware....

And not all the displays are good nowadays. The pentile displays that make it into a lot of Android phones are frankly terrible. They're high res, but they look like crap. And a lot of them have massive oversaturation problems.

The best displays on the planet right now are in the iPhone 5 and the HTC One X. The rest are fighting for third place.

This test between the iPhone 5 and GS3 has some interesting data.
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

The say about color gamut and calibration on the iPhone 5: "Color Gamut: Essentially perfect, 104% of standard". So tested to be pretty much exactly the correct color gamut. I will say, I was surprised at how good the iPhone 5 display looked. The 4S had an excellent display, but the 5's is noticeably better.

Their conclusion: Based on our extensive Lab measurements the iPhone 5 has a true state-of-the-art accurate display – it’s not perfect and there is plenty of room for improvements (and competitors) but it is the best Smartphone display we have seen to date based on extensive Lab measurements and viewing tests. In particular it is a significant improvement over the display in the iPhone 4 with much lower screen Reflections, much higher image contrast and screen readability in high ambient lighting (the highest we have ever measured), and a significantly improved and accurate Color Gamut and Factory Calibration that delivers very accurate colors and very good picture quality. While it’s not quite as accurate as the new iPad, it is still probably more accurate than any consumer display you own (including your HDTV), unless you have a new iPad.

The pentile displays on a lot of phones I find to be rather hideous to look at, and I hate massive oversaturation, which is present on a lot of the Samsung phones. I haven't had a chance to see the One X in person, but from what I understand, it's hands down the class of the Android phones.



Oct 08, 2012 at 08:20 AM
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p.1 #6 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


The problem with these display tests with Apple phones is that they often use a variety of suppliers and its only luck that you get one of the good displays. This happened to me with the 4S and iPad 2 where I had yellow casts and side by side to my friend's phones, it was very noticeable.


Oct 08, 2012 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #7 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Jman13 wrote:
Um, did you even read the link, Bif?


Nope. I've been having looooong sleepless nights trying to put back together a Lion Server that freaked out and was playing havoc with 8TB of data. So I didn't even click it. I will tomorrow probably tho as I've just about got it whipped! (YAY!!!). PenFly makes an interesting point above tho.



And not all the displays are good nowadays. The pentile displays that make it into a lot of Android phones are frankly terrible. They're high res, but they look like crap. And a lot of them have massive oversaturation problems.

Heh... well 1st place through 5th place which are on any of the phones someone tech-savvy would be interested in, all ROCK and a half! Especially compared to just about everything available 2 or 3 years ago!



This test between the iPhone 5 and GS3 has some interesting data.
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

The say about color gamut and calibration on the iPhone 5: "Color Gamut: Essentially perfect, 104% of standard". So tested to be pretty much exactly the correct color gamut. I will say, I was surprised at how good the iPhone 5 display looked. The 4S had an excellent display, but the 5's is noticeably better.

Their conclusion: Based on our extensive Lab measurements the iPhone 5 has a true state-of-the-art accurate display – it’s not perfect and there is plenty of room for improvements (and competitors) but it is the

The pentile displays on a lot of phones I find to be rather hideous to look at, and I hate massive oversaturation, which is present on a lot of the Samsung phones. I haven't had a chance to see the One X in person, but from what I understand, it's hands down the class of the Android phones.
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Maybe it's cuz I'm so tired right now... but that entire italicized portion sounds like marketing hog-wash to me. Even if it is the current "best" to their human eyes and subjective tests. I think the iPhone sales are way down with the locked up (too small) device architecture Apple is pushing and they're trying to compensate by claiming they're "so much better" than the rest on one particular point. Course, I dunno shizz and haven't read almost any actual data but that's what it smells like to me.

I looked really hard at the iPhone5's screen with my optically assisted eyes and it's not humanly possible to tell it apart from the other 3 or 4 runners up - unless maybe you're under 25 and have perfect 20/20 (and even then I doubt it!). Most people don't have 20/20 tho and the very little bit of differences there are between the top 4 or 5 is incredibly minute. I spent about an hour on three separate occasions wearing super-diopter glasses each time with a more powerful pair, to be exactly clear - and came away thinking it was mostly marketing malarky.

<shrug> <shrug>


Oct 08, 2012 at 09:52 AM
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p.1 #8 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Bifurcator wrote:
I keep hearing this: "The full sRGB gamut is present..." From all kinds of folks... !



FYI, I looked at the exact same photos on my new iPhone 5 and on my wife's iPhone 4s and the color gamut is definitely and obviously better on the 5.



Oct 08, 2012 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Yeah, these "phone-thinggys" keep getting better with every release.

They're becoming very potent distractions indeed.

And call me a wing-nut but I'm still not sure I'm entirely comfortable with the level of privacy invasion they imply.



Oct 08, 2012 at 01:47 PM
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p.1 #10 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


What’s this new phone-thinggy like compared to my Nokia 100?


Oct 08, 2012 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #11 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


S Dilworth wrote:
What’s this new phone-thinggy like compared to my Nokia 100?



What is Nokia?



Oct 09, 2012 at 07:42 PM
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p.1 #12 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Definitely an improvement based on numbers alone.
Never did care for the Iphones 4 display size.

Now if only Apple could make maps that worked



Oct 09, 2012 at 08:02 PM
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p.1 #13 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Bifurcator wrote:
Yeah, these "phone-thinggys" keep getting better with every release.

They're becoming very potent distractions indeed.

And call me a wing-nut but I'm still not sure I'm entirely comfortable with the level of privacy invasion they imply.



What is more popuplar in Japan than iphone?

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Oct 13, 2012 at 01:57 AM
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No idea. I'm not aware of any marketing numbers. When I go out to bars, clubs, or am on any of the public transport systems I would say that apple products represent about 15% of the total. But I can't tell an iPhone 5 from a 4 nor from a iPod either - so I dunno what percentage of even that very limited sampling are actually phones.

"Smart phones" represent around or slightly more than 50% of what I see but I have no idea about models nor makers. Most seem to look like they're less than 2 years old.

And the other 25% to 30% are ancient flip-phones and so forth.

Of people with "hand-held" devices less than about 1% are "tablets" but around 3% or 4% of the mentioned "smart phone" class are phabletes.

And that represents a fairly accurate assessment of what I see on the (crowded trendy) streets here and/or in public places.

Also to consider is that maybe 40% of everyone using these things have more than one. During the initial flip-phone craze for example, I owned and maintained 6 different phones with 6 different service accounts. I assume the lion's share of that 40% have at least two. Between my 4 children (now adults) there are 11 phones, 12 phone numbers and probably half that many account chips (SIM Cards?).



BTW, I got around to actually reading that article. It looks like they did the very best they could with the tools they had. Nice write up. But I would like to point out that "In contrast to this, the iPhone 5 covers almost the entire gamut. " is NOT the same thing as actually covering the "entire sRGB gamut".



Oct 13, 2012 at 03:26 AM
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p.1 #15 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


The screen is not the thing that worries me. It the purple haze caused by the new camera lens covering that gives me concerns.


Oct 14, 2012 at 08:51 AM
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p.1 #16 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


The purple flare is present on about 50% of smartphones, and frankly is the most overblown 'problem' I've ever seen. Does it happen? Yeah. Does it happen on a decently composed photo? Nope. Avoid putting the sun on the edge of the frame and you're fine. Since that composition is awful in pretty much 99.9% of scenarios, I honestly have NEVER encountered the issue on a real photo I've taken with the phone. Put the bright source slightly in the frame...it's fine. Out of frame? Fine. Right on the edge? purple flare.


Oct 14, 2012 at 09:58 AM
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p.1 #17 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


Bifurcator wrote:
No idea. I'm not aware of any marketing numbers. When I go out to bars, clubs, or am on any of the public transport systems I would say that apple products represent about 15% of the total. But I can't tell an iPhone 5 from a 4 nor from a iPod either - so I dunno what percentage of even that very limited sampling are actually phones.

"Smart phones" represent around or slightly more than 50% of what I see but I have no idea about models nor makers. Most seem to look like they're less than 2 years old.

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So, are you saying that in so technologically advanced and fairly reach Japan 20-30% of people are still using flip phones now? It is shocking numbers and I saw kind of same numbers while traveling western Europe countries for example, but Japan.... I can't see many blackberry users left here in place I am (NJ/NY) and blackberry is way above flip-phones. Is it because of cost or people are stubborn to learn new?



Oct 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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p.1 #18 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


I don't think I've ever seen a Blackberry in Japan - ever. I see them being used in Hollywood movies and that's about it.

But yeah, see, I'm an ancient old fart. So lots of my friends are ancient as well and a lot of the places which interest me are frequented by olders too - alike interests. I'm an EE/CS major and worked in that field considerably however... So I also tread the young & trendy technology beat. I'm not really into consumerism nor brand names but I like to keep a lazy eye on what's being manufactured, by who, and how it's being presented to and used by "the masses" - generally. So, I kinda see several worlds... The young under 25 trenderz with the newest toys, the under 45 tag-a-longs with the best toys, and the over 45's riding it out group with the antiquated "good enough - WTF cares" toys.

So ya, I see a considerable number of tiny screened flip phones or I guess "non-smart phones"?




Oct 14, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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p.1 #19 · iphone 4 vs 5 detailed display test


vchowdhary wrote:
Now if only Apple could make maps that worked


Eh? Works fine for me from Louisiana to NC. I thought these problems were mostly in other countries? What US problems are there?



Oct 15, 2012 at 05:00 AM





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