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p.31 #1 · p.31 #1 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thank you. I did the same with 5D II and the VF with the new focus screen worked fine for MF the last three years.

Your results with the converted lens look great, imo. Thank you for the Jim Buchanan tip.

Ralph



Jan 12, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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p.31 #2 · p.31 #2 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Actual prices of 6D low down already 1 month now after sales started.
Here in germany the camera is already available between 1859€ and 1929€ (MSPR is 1999) including tax even at reputable dealers. This looks like street price, not special offers for a short time. I guess it is caused by Nikons collaps of prices:
D600 is easyly available for 1579€, D800 at 2249€ (both at amazon.de) including the german tax (19%).

There are still lots of new 5D IIs offered, starting around 1650€ and reaching up to 1872€. At amazon the actual offer (third party) of 5D II is only 47€ cheaper than 6D.

I would like to know what the offers in your country are.

Ralph



Jan 14, 2013 at 07:56 AM
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p.31 #3 · p.31 #3 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Prices in the UK are still fairly high, but the uk is always more expensive... it's roughly £1689 or around 2000€


Jan 14, 2013 at 08:33 PM
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p.31 #4 · p.31 #4 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thanks danb121. What is the MSPR? Or what was the price when sales started? And if it was higher, how much went it down?




Jan 14, 2013 at 09:26 PM
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p.31 #5 · p.31 #5 · 6D - hands on & first experience


When it first launched it was around £1799, the UK is widely known as rip off Britain, everything is so much more expensive over here…

I like the 6D though, it's bigger and heavier than my 550D and that has taken some getting use to, I had another play with the wifi at the weekend... and wow that's easy to use, it works very well; the menu system (while different from my previous canons) is easy to navigate too!

I'm looking forward to getting so files into LR and seeing how far I can push them... unfortunately the poor weather is stopping me from getting out at the moment, I'll post some shots soon.



Jan 15, 2013 at 07:54 AM
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p.31 #6 · p.31 #6 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thank you again.

Any price breaks from spain, france, italy usa?



Jan 15, 2013 at 06:41 PM
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p.31 #7 · p.31 #7 · 6D - hands on & first experience


1999 body only at B&H and Amazon today.
I got mine at ebay from Samy's last month. $2699 for the kit with an extra Canon LP-E6 and SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB plus $100 ebay bucks. The new 24-105 was a little better than my current one, so I sold the used lens for $750 and ended up with a new lens.



Jan 15, 2013 at 06:49 PM
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p.31 #8 · p.31 #8 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
Thank you again.

Any price breaks from spain, france, italy usa?


Ralph, MSRP = Manufactured Suggested Retail Price, in the US it is $2099.00, a nation wide retail electronics store 'Best Buy' has advertised the 6D at $1899, but there is a post here on FM that said a local Best Buy honored a verified eBbay price of $1839.00.

Canon has refurbished 5D3's for $2800, non-in-stock at the moment tho. At Canon's webstore, pricing is absolutely nuts, for body only, before xmas and after xmas refurb pricing is below, amazon's pricing as of this morning follows refurb pricing

- refurb 5D2 $1402/$1760, amazon new $1799, $2399 w/24-105L IS
- refurb 7D $1019/$1280, amazon new $1199
- refurb 60D $699/$799, amazon new $699

Amazon has the 6D at $1999 today, 6D w/24-105L IS $2699

IMHO we won't see any huge price drops until Summer, some small changes perhaps but nothing like $500 or more...or not until the next new body is announced and that could be September

There was nothing of huge interest for us Canon DSLR folks at CES...


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Jan 15, 2013 at 07:16 PM
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p.31 #9 · p.31 #9 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thank you too, nalax and stilly . Are those prices end prices? Taxfree or tax included?
The best offer with kit I saw here was 2.597,99 € (3450,75$ !). Tax included (19%). No "extras".




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Jan 15, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.31 #10 · p.31 #10 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
Thank you. Are those prices end prices? Taxfree or tax included?
The best offer with kit I saw here was 2.597,99 € (3450,75 !). Tax included (19%). No "extras".


NO, the above pricing is before tax and shipping...taxes are extra and are determined by State law, shipping costs are controlled by seller/shipper.

If you are an Amazon Prime member, the pricing above includes FREE 2 day shipping within the US, taxes may still apply depending on your State laws; California does require Amazon and other retailers to collect taxes as of late last year.


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p.31 #11 · p.31 #11 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
...Are those prices end prices? Taxfree or tax included?


It doesn't include taxes, which vary from state to state and even city to city. (And some states, such as Oregon, have no sales tax at all; only income taxes, etc.)



Jan 15, 2013 at 07:24 PM
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p.31 #12 · p.31 #12 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thanx Brian. If I substract our taxes the price here would be 2900$. Again body and lens, no extras or ebay bucks (whatever this is). In germany the tax is same wherever you live and there is no sale without.


Jan 15, 2013 at 07:29 PM
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p.31 #13 · p.31 #13 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
...In germany the tax is same wherever you live and there is no sale without.


Yeah, it's one of the more-confusing aspects of the USA's monetary system for the uninitiated.

Most states have a base sales tax percentage, and local governments can add on to that for voter-approved measures such as mass transit, sports complexes, etc.

My state (Washington) has no state income tax, whereas Oregon has income taxes but not sales taxes. California has both kinds.

Washingtonians who live near the Oregon border often do much of their shopping in Oregon, although they are supposed to pay taxes on most types of cross-border purchases (but most people don't).



Jan 15, 2013 at 07:38 PM
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p.31 #14 · p.31 #14 · 6D - hands on & first experience


While the tax discussion is captivating I just wanted to update the battery issue that I had with my 6D and charger.

B&H replaced my 2011 LP-E6 with a 2012/09 LP-E6 and it now charges and operates as expected. So, either I got a bad battery that wouldn't charge, or there's some firmware update that prevented it with the 2011 one.

I'm still waiting on my grip replacement, which didn't work with my good LP-E6 or AA batteries. Felt good though...looking forward to using it once it comes back.



Jan 16, 2013 at 07:18 PM
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p.31 #15 · p.31 #15 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Thank you, Mike. I would love to hear from you this grip is running as soon you get it.

Ralph



Jan 16, 2013 at 08:20 PM
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p.31 #16 · p.31 #16 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
Thanx Brian. If I substract our taxes the price here would be 2900$. Again body and lens, no extras or ebay bucks (whatever this is). In germany the tax is same wherever you live and there is no sale without.


Yeah I've struggled with the tax system on goods when I've shopped in America... when I first went to the States I couldn't believe how cheap things were; then I found out that the tax gets added till



Jan 16, 2013 at 09:10 PM
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p.31 #17 · p.31 #17 · 6D - hands on & first experience


So If I am in New York and want to buy D6 + 24-105 kit for $ 2499 at 42photo. How much do I have to pay in reality?
Or my friend who lives in Massachusetts?
I am puzzled...



Jan 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM
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p.31 #18 · p.31 #18 · 6D - hands on & first experience


I red this in their FAC;

Sales Tax
Sales tax (8.875%) will only apply if you take possession of the merchandise in person or by mail within New York State. If you have the merchandise shipped to any other state outside of New York or outside of the United States of America you will not be assessed New York State Taxes.

So that's it?



Jan 16, 2013 at 11:46 PM
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p.31 #19 · p.31 #19 · 6D - hands on & first experience


sculptormic wrote:
...If you have the merchandise shipped to any other state outside of New York or outside of the United States of America you will not be assessed New York State Taxes.


Yep, that's it. Some states have proposed taxing goods shipped out of state, Internet sales, etc. as a way of bolstering their coffers, but so far New York hasn't done that.

When I was selling high-end watches a few years ago here in Washington State, we had a lot of Canadian shoppers at my shop, and if they even showed us a Canadian ID we weren't supposed to charge the tax. It's the same principle.



Jan 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM
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p.31 #20 · p.31 #20 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Well, let΄s get back to the camera, please.

To those, who already own/use it:

Are there any mayor problems because of the missing joystick?
Does it feel like a big hint. Or is/was it easy for you to get along with the new multi-wheel?

Ralph



Jan 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM
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