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p.16 #1 · 6D - hands on & first experience


mikegrados wrote:
Come on Ralph, someone's posting photos on DPReview from their new 6D!

I'm in the armpit of the US, with no idea where I'll be able to play with one in person...an hours drive to Best Buy, but I don't think they're going to carry it.


- as far I know its in stock nowhere here in germany now.



Nov 30, 2012 at 06:07 AM
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p.16 #2 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Pre-ordered yours yet Ralph??


Nov 30, 2012 at 07:08 AM
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p.16 #3 · 6D - hands on & first experience


No, I never did. And I will not do in the future.


Nov 30, 2012 at 07:16 AM
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p.16 #4 · 6D - hands on & first experience


If I am not waiting for the 24-70 f/4 kit, I will be playing with one now...


Nov 30, 2012 at 08:29 AM
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p.16 #5 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Nobody has a 6D(not a pre-production camera) in hands to tell us about it and show some pictures?


Nov 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM
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p.16 #6 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Samples :http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50380221


Nov 30, 2012 at 01:25 PM
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p.16 #7 · 6D - hands on & first experience


It is in many places in the Asian continent.


Nov 30, 2012 at 03:31 PM
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p.16 #8 · 6D - hands on & first experience


B&h expects to have stock on Monday and has 6D w 24-105 and a couple of goodies, for $2699.


Nov 30, 2012 at 04:25 PM
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p.16 #9 · 6D - hands on & first experience


WOW! ISO 8000 looks GREAT!!!!! Imagine shooting the night sky with this! The 6D is now on my wish list Thanks for share the link!

Sanlameer wrote:
Samples :http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50380221




Nov 30, 2012 at 06:19 PM
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p.16 #10 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Most of the shots special the high ISO ones look very extreme noise reduced to me in 100%. The others show contrast lines and artifacts, too. I would like to see some Raw samples now.


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p.16 #11 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Took a second look and I see what you mean. I was going to ask the guy on dpreview about NR but I don't remember my password

Ralph Conway wrote:
Most of the shots special the high ISO ones look very extreme noise reduced to me in 100%. The others show contrast lines and artifacts, too. I would like to see some Raw samples now.




Nov 30, 2012 at 07:19 PM
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p.16 #12 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
Most of the shots special the high ISO ones look very extreme noise reduced to me in 100%. The others show contrast lines and artifacts, too. I would like to see some Raw samples now.


I thought the same thing...



Nov 30, 2012 at 07:20 PM
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p.16 #13 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Lensrentals quick AF test : http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/11/a-quick-6d-af-test




Nov 30, 2012 at 07:35 PM
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p.16 #14 · 6D - hands on & first experience


MayaTlab wrote:
Lensrentals quick AF test : http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/11/a-quick-6d-af-test



I do not understand the graphs and the results out of them.



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:08 PM
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p.16 #15 · 6D - hands on & first experience


A SD of 28 if in my opinion very good, better than all the prior cameras with the exception of the 5dIII and 1Dx (SD of 17) and 1D IV (SD of 22).
The 5D II has an SD of 38.5!

I think the 6D is not comparable to the 5dII, but to other modern AF systems like the t4i. It is not comparable to the 5dIII, but good enough for me.



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:18 PM
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p.16 #16 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Basically, if I'm correct : the lower the standard deviation with phase AF, the more precise the AF is. The 1DX and 5DIII have a phase AF that's almost as precise as liveview AF, for example, according to Roger Cicala.
According to him, the 6D is as good as the 5DII.



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:20 PM
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p.16 #17 · 6D - hands on & first experience


Ralph Conway wrote:
I do not understand the graphs and the results out of them.



I think the conclusions to the graph are wrong. 6d seems to do better than the 5d3 ?



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:47 PM
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p.16 #18 · 6D - hands on & first experience


MayaTlab wrote:
Basically, if I'm correct : the lower the standard deviation with phase AF, the more precise the AF is. The 1DX and 5DIII have a phase AF that's almost as precise as liveview AF, for example, according to Roger Cicala.
According to him, the 6D is as good as the 5DII.


Yes, I read this too and I asked Roger. Because according to the numbers of the presented graph it looks much nearer to 5D III than to 5DII for me (only center AF point was tested).



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:50 PM
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p.16 #19 · 6D - hands on & first experience


RobDickinson wrote:
I think the conclusions to the graph are wrong. 6d seems to do better than the 5d3 ?


that was my reading, too but the written word speeks different. I asked Roger in the blog please to explain.



Nov 30, 2012 at 08:52 PM
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p.16 #20 · 6D - hands on & first experience


From Roger's articles, SD (standard deviation) of previous cameras with the 28/2.8 IS is:

Camera - SD

1DsIII 29
5D II 38.5
50D 34
7D 41
1DIV 22
60D 34
T3i 41
1Dx 17
5D III 17
T4i 29

6D 28

Keeping in mind that 5D3 is ONLY hitting that accuracy with a handful of certain new lenses - such as 28/2.8 IS - not with every older lens in production (according to Rogers previous articles, unless I am misunderestimating what he 'splained in them).

With 'older' lenses (100L macro and later, 2009?) I believe SD of 5D3 was similar to 5D2's numbers (at center point).



Nov 30, 2012 at 09:56 PM
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