p.2 #2 · Youth football green screen T&I background
I do like the first one better. I think it has potential. It's different. Looks like the athlete is in ESPN studios or something like that. The second is more traditional and not too much different than what you have been doing.
p.2 #3 · Youth football green screen T&I background
P Alesse wrote:
I do like the first one better. I think it has potential. It's different. Looks like the athlete is in ESPN studios or something like that. The second is more traditional and not too much different than what you have been doing.
Funny you say that. I got the idea from a Tony Dungy interview I saw on ESPN one day.
p.2 #4 · Youth football green screen T&I background
I like the very first example.
The subject to the parent is not the background. However, the subject, because of your post tile, IS the background.
I think you've tainted the bias towards the background because of the title and we are more technical photographers than parents are.
As you know, parents are about their kids, not the background, not the technical aspect or merits. The first example puts the emphasis on the kid, not the Colts nor the horseshoe. In the other examples, there is an attempt to pull attention from the kid to the logo.
p.2 #5 · Youth football green screen T&I background
And I thought I was being all modern & cool by suggesting it lol.
Brent
James Broome wrote:
Thanks Brent. I've done that before - about 4 years ago. I was hoping to find something a bit more modern and cool. I had reservations about this design, which is why I posted it here. I'm saddened a bit to hear about everyone's reservations about it, but they mostly match my own.
p.2 #7 · Youth football green screen T&I background
I kinda like the first one too, yes it is distracting, there are vert lines... but, I kinda like it for what it is. You can bounce it off your customer and see what they say... Sometimes we suffer from paralysis by analysis we are out own worst critic. The thing I don't like is the dangling arm. I shoot a good bit of T&I, and have gone with for football, generally the same pose as you, but I have the player put their left foot up on a bench (11" gps bench) and have them put their left hand on their thigh pad... It kinda breaks things up a bit.
James,
For my taste (and what I believe my customers would like) I would go with this version. Very nice work! I am fixin' to do a pretty nice sized hockey league and I plan on doing something similar. maybe I can pick your brain for a few minutes.
p.2 #9 · Youth football green screen T&I background
There is a variation of this last one on your FB where the BG is blurred. I like that one better than this one but I still like the idea and concept of the first one best and I would play with that a bit more to make it work.
I still have to tell you though and it's not meant to belabor the point, but that dangling hand is killing it for me. Hand on hip can make it wider and I understand that, but I just can't get an honest judgement on the whole scene with the current crop.
What about a full body shot with the ESPN studio look like you did on the first one? Maybe even have the kid drop to a knee, shoot eye level with him. Can you use black floor tile to kneel on and then use the green screen to drop out the upper body? Too much work?
p.2 #10 · Youth football green screen T&I background
Hey James I'm sort of in the same boat as Paul. I like the first image BR. Is it possible to get a wider perspective? In other words can the BR be made a little smaller to see more of a perspective of the logo BR. And if you can Back the player image out to see the hand. I'm using the fx home pro software where you can adjust the sizes of the FG, BR, and an overlay fairly easily. Otherwise I really like what you are doing here with GS and appreciate all your help getting me up to speed with my GS work.
p.2 #11 · Youth football green screen T&I background
P Alesse wrote:
There is a variation of this last one on your FB where the BG is blurred. I like that one better than this one but I still like the idea and concept of the first one best and I would play with that a bit more to make it work.
This one?
It's at the end of page 1 in this thread. I think many people have missed it for some reason.
P Alesse wrote:
I still have to tell you though and it's not meant to belabor the point, but that dangling hand is killing it for me. Hand on hip can make it wider and I understand that, but I just can't get an honest judgement on the whole scene with the current crop.
I've never shot them loose enough to show the whole hand. Not in the last 6 years of doing this with them. It just ends up being too loose. A hand on the hip makes them look feminine to me, so I've avoided that. I've tried putting their empty hand behind them, but then they look like amputees. Having the hand come in front to the ball as well covers up the jersey. I mean, I've tried everything and this is what I've come up with. I've never heard a single complaint about the hand until now. If I concentrate on it, yeah, it bothers me too. But I know this is the best I'm going to do.
P Alesse wrote:
What about a full body shot with the ESPN studio look like you did on the first one? Maybe even have the kid drop to a knee, shoot eye level with him. Can you use black floor tile to kneel on and then use the green screen to drop out the upper body? Too much work?
I could do that, but then I'm using multiple setups (lights, etc.) for what I need instead of a single setup. I have to be able to get the individual shot (what I've shown here) as well as the isolated shot for the team composite.
p.2 #13 · Youth football green screen T&I background
Maybe try.....the original background, which is a fantastic idea, full logo, maybe cut the opacity a little(or not), in the upper left hand corner(ish) of the center panel, nice and small(maybe a third or a little larger, of the young man's head) and on the right hand panel(free transform, warp, to nail the perspective)
All the examples are very nice regardless. For me though, concentrating on your original concept, I'd like to see what is described above. I agree with Mr. Lauri that the focus immediately goes to the left side of the logo. Easy fix.
Great shots, great lighting.
