ricardovaste wrote:
I guess we're looking at 20k ++
IF they were able to come out with something at around 10K, I think Hasselblad could make some inroads into folks who are considering a Leica M10 or even a Pentax 645d/ pro NIkon/ proCanon. At 20K (and I'm afraid you are likely correct), they just will not see much success no matter what it is given the size of that market.
A good point. If it's comparable in price to a Leica M10 that would be interesting, and make it competitive. If not, it'll just be seen as another high end product for professionals who earn a LOT or millionaires.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Yes, but for some reason it didn't succeed. I remember even the AA filter was user removable.
When it was released, I critically viewed the raws which were absolutely terrible. The watercolor effect was so bad, it makes the current Fuji X-Pro1 foliage issue look like nothing (which it is to some). Later I think Mamiya addressed this issue somewhat but by then it had a poor IQ reputation and higher quality DSLR's were available.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
When it was released, I critically viewed the raws which were absolutely terrible. The watercolor effect was so bad, it makes the current Fuji X-Pro1 foliage issue look like nothing (which it is to some). Later I think Mamiya addressed this issue somewhat.
That must have been the reason then. But that was a very appealing idea, and the pricing was very very attractive. Without mirror it will even cost less. That was the point of my question. I think a mirrorless MF can be easily sold for 10k if not less.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
When it was released, I critically viewed the raws which were absolutely terrible. The watercolor effect was so bad, it makes the current Fuji X-Pro1 foliage issue look like nothing (which it is to some). Later I think Mamiya addressed this issue somewhat but by then it had a poor IQ reputation and higher quality DSLR's were available.
And of course you could buy the ZD back for the standard 645AFDII for less money, and that's what most people did instead of buying the non-upgradable ZD camera.
The ZD back was a sales success for Mamiya, they couldn't keep them in stock once the firmware was straightened out. It was also the first semi-inexpensive MFDB option to hit the market.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
It will be very iteresting to see if it's OVF, EVF or - what would be really amazing imo - Fuji Hybrid (since you can bet Fuji is building it).
I wonder if this could be some sort of dual platform replacement for the XP1. The XE1 is going to cannibalize sales of that camera... maybe this is a way to keep disillusioned XP1 owners in the ecosystem (by telling them Hasselblad will be involved in the "high" end version of the product).
carlitos wrote:
Hate to sound cynical and troll-like, but what does Hasselblad contribute to this design?
Name, money and design? Even if Fuji were to build it, I'm guessing Hasselblad would have designed it for the most part. We are all just speculating at this point.
Edward,
I had a 65mm Fujinon lens on my Fuji GSW 690 mf rangefinder. Terrific lens. The system was build like a tank. But in general, Japanese lenses draw differently than German lenses. More focus on contrast.
glacierpete wrote:
Edward,
I had a 65mm Fujinon lens on my Fuji GSW 690 mf rangefinder. Terrific lens. The system was build like a tank. But in general, Japanese lenses draw differently than German lenses. More focus on contrast.
I agree. It's actually very noticeable going from Zeiss to Fuji imo. They are on opposite ends of the contrast spectrum (Fuji more "round" with smooth transitions, Zeiss more biting and dramatic with high micro contrast). Both great in their own right but they render dramatically differently. I was really surprised back when Hassy moved to Fuji from Zeiss for their lenses as it really changed the look one associated with Hasselblad. I sort of think that hurt them a bit since doing so even less differentiated them from Mamiya (frist 645, then Japanese rendering).
