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p.1 #1 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Okay, so I've been shooting Nikon for years and I recently had the D3s, D3, D700 cameras, along with some DX like the D7000, D300, D200, D90...so on. No matter what FX camera I used, the files always had a crispness that the DX cameras and Canon's didn't have. The DX cameras always looked fuzzy, I guess that's the best way to explain it.

Well this is my second D800 and I shot a whole wedding last night and nothing has that normal crisp feeling that Nikon FX cameras generally give. All of my lenses have never needed any sort of MA and to be honest I don't think that is it.

I'm curious as to if it's a setting or something. At this point, I'm not sure what to do because I need video (hence the D7000 and D800 combo) but for my photo stuff, the D3s has always been such a crisp camera.

I see so many people posting photos from their D800's and they are sharp, full of detail and I'm just not getting that out of mine, so I'm thinking it's me.

Lenses...

14 2.8D
28 1.8G
50 1.8G
85 1.8G
70-200 2.8G

Thanks!


Aug 19, 2012 at 02:05 PM
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p.1 #2 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Could you post a picture or 2 to help us see your issue. The D800 NEF files have less contrast then my previous camera such as the d3x and D3s. This lower contrast Looks like a haze. I personally prefer this as it allows me to adjust in post.


Aug 19, 2012 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #3 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Pics coming.


Aug 19, 2012 at 02:26 PM
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p.1 #4 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


left af issue?

Nikon made a point of stating how proper technique is required with the d800. Have you tried using a tripod to determine if it is user or equipment related?


Aug 19, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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p.1 #5 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Not a left af issue, mine is the same at all points, that was my first test. I'll try a tripod and/or higher shutter speeds than 1/125 and 1/160 with an 85 to see if that improves things.


Aug 19, 2012 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #6 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


I find the D800e pics to be the "crispiest" I've seen out of a Nikon camera. I have the 70-200 VR II, otherwise I don't shoot the same glass as you. I would put that puppy on a tripod and do some quick tests with your main lens. That will tell you if it is the camera, lens, or your shooting style that is giving you trouble.


Aug 19, 2012 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #7 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Okay, it was a shutter speed issue. I guess I can't handhold this camera like I could all previous cameras.


Aug 19, 2012 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #8 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


pubtime wrote:
Okay, it was a shutter speed issue. I guess I can't handhold this camera like I could all previous cameras.

Keep in mind that even though a higher MP sensor may require a higher shutter speed to get sharp results at 100% magnification, the higher MP sensor image downsampled to a lower MP image will never be blurrier than a native lower MP image even if you used a lower-than-optimal shutter speed. In other words, just because a 36MP image isn't sharp at 100% magnification doesn't mean it's garbage - it simply means you wont gain the advantage of that higher resolution for that particular image. But you wont lose anything either.


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p.1 #9 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Fuzzy is a word I wouldn't associate with any Nikon body...but the D800 not today!
Hand held BushHawk 300 f4 and Kenko 1.4x TC from across the ditch, in a breeze.
Check the crop out...also SOOC






  NIKON D800    420 mm    f/6.3    1/1000 sec    400 ISO    -0.3 EV  








  NIKON D800    420 mm    f/6.3    1/1000 sec    400 ISO    -0.3 EV  
Aug 19, 2012 at 11:40 PM
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p.1 #10 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


OMG someone found fault with my heavily cropped/massive 127kb file. I'd best regroup and repost.

Edited on Aug 21, 2012 at 12:08 PM · View previous versions
Aug 20, 2012 at 12:12 AM
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p.1 #11 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


I was in Maine for several weeks this summer (in a town called Franklin, near Acadia National Park) and I spent some time shooting pictures of Hummingbirds that nest in that area. I used mostly my new D800 (with different lenses) even if I had brought a D3s with me. I would say that I used the D800 for about 90% of all the picture that I took (about 4000) and that the results were impressive not only for wildlife but for landscape pictures too. These are two samples of images taken with the D800 (one with a 600mm VR, the other with a 70-200mm plus a TC 2.x III).








Ruby-Throated Hummingbird (Archilochus colubris) (probably a juvenile)

  NIKON D800    400 mm    f/5.6    1/1600 sec    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  










Ruby-Throated Hummingbird (Archilochus colubris) with a 600mm VR

  NIKON D800    600 mm    f/4.0    1/1600 sec    4000 ISO    0.0 EV  
Aug 20, 2012 at 02:38 AM
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p.1 #12 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


I am having similar challenges. I LOVE the photos from my D3s, super clean, super sharp, excellent under all shooting conditions.

Since getting the D800 I too have noticed the NEF files aren't as clean and sharp as the D3s. Don't misunderstand, the D800 produces fantastic images, but when getting extra critical, I like the D3s better. I find there to be a "grain" to the D800 photos and I can't stop a weird "sharpening" kind of thing I keep seeing at 100%, especially on eyes.

Unfortunately, I can't post any photos but I wanted to join the conversation anyway.


Aug 21, 2012 at 06:54 AM
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p.1 #13 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


trenchmonkey, crops seem sharper than the original photos, is there something wrong with my eyes?
i also see fuzziness in your both two samples (not the crop)
Aug 21, 2012 at 09:24 AM
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p.1 #14 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


Use LightRoom instead of Nikon software. Should help.

And bump "clarity" slider up a bit. It can achieve what previous Nikons did.. it just takes a bit of PP, shouldnt be hard to make some profile for that.


Aug 21, 2012 at 09:59 AM
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p.1 #15 · Nikon D800 files - Fuzzy?


snapsy wrote:
pubtime wrote:
Okay, it was a shutter speed issue. I guess I can't handhold this camera like I could all previous cameras.

Keep in mind that even though a higher MP sensor may require a higher shutter speed to get sharp results at 100% magnification, the higher MP sensor image downsampled to a lower MP image will never be blurrier than a native lower MP image even if you used a lower-than-optimal shutter speed. In other words, just because a 36MP image isn't sharp at 100% magnification doesn't mean it's garbage - it simply means you wont gain the advantage of that higher resolution for that particular image. But you wont lose anything either.

+1 to that!

The 800E has to be the most temperamental body ever when it comes to handholding, it's way worse the 800 based on extensive use with both. When the file is clean I stay away from the sharpening sliders and use clarity only but even with tiny amounts of blur the files look good at standard resolution.


Aug 21, 2012 at 03:58 PM
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