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p.3 #1 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Jman13 wrote:
Oh, and by the way...if anyone has been wanting wireless radio triggers for off camera flash, but didn't want to spend the bucks for RadioPoppers or Pocket Wizards...check out Cowboy Studio's FM radio triggers. $28 for the transmitter and two receivers (or $22 for transmitter with one receiver). Four channels, work at good distances, and I haven't had a single missfire. You can get them on Amazon.


Are these the ones you mean? Thanks for the tip.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cowboystudio-4-Channel-Remote-Trigger-Receivers/dp/B00363EZY0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1343590070&sr=8-8



Jul 29, 2012 at 02:30 PM
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p.3 #2 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Well, those are for studio strobes. No experience with those, as I use a 'strobist' type system.

These are the ones I've got (looks like the same system, though): Here.

For those in the US: Here

The sync cable is extra in case your hotshoe doesn't fire with them and you have a PC cord. Not needed for most anyone, though. I just put the transmitter in my hotshoe, attach the receiver to my flash, manual mode on the flash and go. No ETTL.

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Jul 29, 2012 at 02:40 PM
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p.3 #3 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Whole point of good satire, or what is sometimes refered to as being ironic, is that it is delivered in a straight faced manner. That is kind of the point of the, shall we say, "art form". Delivering a statement that seems outrageous or absurd with seeming total conviction. Case in point, the cable program "The Colbert Report" which has host Steven Colbert delivering content with the unflinching conviction of a extreme right wing conservative pundit. There is no sly winks, disclaimers after a segment he's only joking etc. The conviction and seeming sincerity even when the message is over the top is what makes the performance work.

I would have to disgree with the statement that it is never obvious in print as well. Print satire is really the original form of the, again, let us use the term, "art form", and one that is still quite alive and well on mock newsites such as the popular "The Onion".

Yakim's post is a classic example of satire and his seemingly serious message was a direct spoof on how seriously many people on the internet take each and every camera review, even to the point where it truly does seem that their happiness and welfare is dependent upon something as trivial in the larger picture of life as a camera lens.



Jul 29, 2012 at 02:41 PM
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p.3 #4 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Yes, but satire is generally only taken as satire if you have some idea that it is. Now, it can be used to great effect (such as Swift's "Modest Proposal") when it is originally taken as serious, but when you watch Colbert, you know it's satire. His delivery is great, but you know it's fake.

Now, imagine you are reading a satirical article on CNN or something, and it is reported as news, or the like. It's not hard to believe that people will take it as straight laced reporting as opposed to a satirical piece because of the format and source of the article. In an informational thread, likewise, there generally needs to be some indication that you are giving a wink or something, if you don't want your post to be taken at face value.

In any case, I wasn't offended by Yakim's post in any way, though it did sound like he was serious at first blush. Now lets get back on the rails here.

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Jul 29, 2012 at 02:46 PM
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p.3 #5 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


On a different topic, I agree 100% on the effectiveness of the low end remotes these days.

Unless you need the advanced features such as quad triggering of different lighting groups, or to fire a remote camera placed up in the rafters at a long distance etc, there really is no real advantage to the more expensive triggers.

I sold off about $1000 worth of PW Multimax units 2 years ago and replaced them with about $50 of the so called "ebay" triggers.

Worked flawlessly for hundreds of photo shoots so far. PW's are better, but unless you've got some very specific needs there really is no point for most people to spend 10-20 times as much.



Jul 29, 2012 at 02:46 PM
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p.3 #6 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Jman13 wrote:
Well, those are for studio strobes. No experience with those, as I use a 'strobist' type system.

These are the ones I've got (looks like the same system, though): Here.

For those in the US: Here

The sync cable is extra in case your hotshoe doesn't fire with them and you have a PC cord. Not needed for most anyone, though. I just put the transmitter in my hotshoe, attach the receiver to my flash, manual mode on the flash and go. No ETTL.


Thanks for the extra info. I guess I need to mix and match since I have one (cheap Calumet) studio strobe and one Nikon SB900 flash.



Jul 29, 2012 at 03:41 PM
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p.3 #7 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Well, you'll need to lay out the big bucks then.


Jul 29, 2012 at 04:22 PM
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p.3 #8 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Why, can't I just buy the one kit and an extra receiver of the other kind? I would have thought that the trigger part of the two kits was the same unit. Anyway, I am considering either getting another studio light or another flash, so in the end I may just do that instead. Maybe an SB600/700, and be done.


Jul 29, 2012 at 04:50 PM
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p.3 #9 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Proof again that sarcasm is hard to read in print, even with a wink. Even if you bought both complete sets, you're not talking much money. That's the great thing.

BTW....I did a little test today...put my flash in my study upstairs, pointed in the hallway. THen I went down the steps, out the front door to the edge of my front porch, took a picture looking back at the top of my steps, and the flash fired just fine. So, about 30 feet through walls and they worked just fine!

Who knows how long they'll last, as I'm sure they've skimped on some component quality, but they work well.



Jul 29, 2012 at 04:57 PM
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p.3 #10 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


You can just set the SB900's to SU4 mode, which is an optical trigger mode btw, makes life a bit easier.

Most shoots I do for Ohio State these days I'm only using one trigger and the rest of my optically triggered. As long as your the only shooter (which 99 times out of 100) you would be doing a portrait type shoot, there really isn't that much need to even have a trigger on each and every light.



Jul 29, 2012 at 05:13 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
Proof again that sarcasm is hard to read in print, even with a wink. Even if you bought both complete sets, you're not talking much money. That's the great thing.


Ah, when you said big bucks, I thought you mean PWs, implying that the strobe remote and the flash remote do not use the same trigger I didn't understand the winkey at all



Jul 29, 2012 at 05:34 PM
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millsart wrote:
You can just set the SB900's to SU4 mode, which is an optical trigger mode btw, makes life a bit easier.

Most shoots I do for Ohio State these days I'm only using one trigger and the rest of my optically triggered. As long as your the only shooter (which 99 times out of 100) you would be doing a portrait type shoot, there really isn't that much need to even have a trigger on each and every light.


Good point! I'd probably just get the 2 remote strobe kit then, and then I can buy another strobe or another flash and it'll all work together. Even if I go out with two flashes, now that I have a D800 I can trigger them with the on-board flash, so I should be set.

Actually, before I buy anything, I should see if the on-board flash can't trigger everything I own. I have to get used to this kind of thinking now that the D3 isn't my main camera any more.



Jul 29, 2012 at 05:35 PM
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p.3 #13 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


If you set it to manual it should be able to trigger optical slaves just fine


Jul 29, 2012 at 09:05 PM
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p.3 #14 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


On another note... ordered my 12-35 today and I'm told it should be here on thursday. Will be my first using the OM-D with a decent lens. Certainly a lot lighter than the Nikon 24-70




Jul 30, 2012 at 07:03 PM
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p.3 #15 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


I wish it'd be a GH3 kit, with a considerable price reduction.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Jul 31, 2012 at 06:51 AM
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p.3 #16 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


My full review is up:

http://admiringlight.com/blog/panasonic-lumix-12-35mm-f2-8-x-review/



Aug 01, 2012 at 07:41 PM
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p.3 #17 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Great review. Looks like a superb lens. If you please, can you relate to continous AF performance for both stills and video?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Aug 02, 2012 at 03:23 AM
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p.3 #18 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Thank you for your efforts. I really appreciate reading your review

Massimo



Aug 02, 2012 at 04:39 AM
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p.3 #19 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Thanks.

Yakim - the continuous AF performance on these cameras isn't limited by the lens. It performs the same as any other fast focusing lens for m4/3 when using C-AF. That is, average at best for stills and decent for video, provided the subject isn't moving too fast. I didn't mention it because I frankly shot very very little C-AF during my time, and not enough to definitively review that portion, but all the super-fast focusing lenses are about the same in all aspects of AF performance. Super fast and accurate in single shot, and the rest is limited by the camera.



Aug 02, 2012 at 06:49 AM
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p.3 #20 · Panasonic 12-35mm first impressions


Great review, very detailed and balanced.


Aug 02, 2012 at 08:00 AM
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