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p.2 #1 · How did you Learn ?


My photography began to improve when I began posting on FM and the Saintly beings here began to critique my work.

All will agree I have a long way to go, but they keep it interesting.

Shoot and post



Jul 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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p.2 #2 · How did you Learn ?


Allow me to paraphrase some of the previous replies since it's already been stated for me:

Mickey wrote:
Trial and error, plus a lot of reading.


PetKal wrote:
How have I learned all I know about photography, however little that might be ?

Simple, I've been learning by taking tonnes of bad pictures.
Some day I hope to be able to take some good ones too...


jerrykur wrote:
- Study light, not gear. Remember shadows or tonal contrast is what makes a shot interesting.

- As with all thing practice, practice, practice. Pixels are free. Make a lot of mistakes


trenchmonkey wrote:
Work to capture emotion, or tell a story. BTW, this can't be taught.
Rinse, repeat....and welcome to FM


Omar



Jul 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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p.2 #3 · How did you Learn ?


Reading, practising, and many hours spent on FM!




Jul 24, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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p.2 #4 · How did you Learn ?


Having started in the 60's we did not have the resources of today... Trial & error was the time honored tradition... Then attended school (Boring), workshops (simple meat markets), magazines, on-line courses,, books, & finally a mentor... FM has also been of unmeasurable assistance... My recommendation is Shoot, post for critique, listen to what you are told, and shoot more... Read Peterson, Adams and others to learn theory of light & composition, & did I mention, Shoot...


Jul 24, 2012 at 11:40 AM
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p.2 #5 · How did you Learn ?


As far as book, John Shaw's Nature Photography Field Guide is the best book I've ever read. It's thin but loaded with technical information.


Jul 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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p.2 #6 · How did you Learn ?


I started with a 40D and a canon 18-55mm IS lens.

I learned how to use M mode on the internet and the basics of photography (exposure, aperture, shutter speed, etc....) Then I just went out and forced myself to always shoot in M mode until I got more comfortable with it.

Then I kept reading on the net and experiencing different techniques with my camera.

Eventually made the jump to 5d2 / 24-105 f4L IS. Then the MADNESS STARTED with all the lens buying and stuff... But that's another story.

Now I'm thinking about taking a few 1-day classes on different more specific topics like studio lighthing...

So up to now I've learned by reading and trial and error as well.



Jul 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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p.2 #7 · How did you Learn ?


Camera clubs can be very helpful and the people you meet are often a fantastic resource as is this forum. I started with a Canon Ftb back in the 70's and that was strictly film for me until about 2001. I've done the darkroom stuff and owned tons of equipment. I got into weddings and some school team photography. I've taken in a lot of income in photography and am currently retired but trying to help others. I am primarily self taught and with film, that was expensive. Digital photography makes learning way cheaper since each shot does not cost you for film and processing. Free practice and that's what you need. I shoot Canon but the brand does not make you any better. I can take just as good pictures with Pentax or Nikon. I can't emphasize more than to say learn Photoshop and that alone will make your photography better(some love Lightroom but I don't know that program). I recommend the Scott Kelby books for learning photoshop and photography. I am a 40 year veteran of teaching and I know who presents material in the way that students can learn best and Kelby is a master at presenting concepts and illustrating with pictures/diagrams ....No, Kelby isn't paying me for this endorsement. He has a ton of books out there.....Go to Amazon and don't be afraid to buy used books. I recommend that you buy Photoshop Elements for around 50-75 dollars and master that program before going to the full Photoshop which is aournd 700 or so the last I heard.


Jul 26, 2012 at 04:33 AM
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p.2 #8 · How did you Learn ?


I agree. I used to shoot black and white and processed my own pics in the 70s. I jump started my serious digital photography with Bryan Peterson's book, "Understanding Exposure" and "Learning to See Creatively." Practice the recommended exercises and put it to heart. After that you have to reach in to your frames of reference and use your eye. Train yourself to look at scenes like you're looking at it from the camera's viewfinder. Isolate, highlight, read light, etc. I always think how would I shoot this scene if I had my camera.

Beyond the shutter, there's still workflow and post processing you NEED to learn. Don't shoot jpegs. Shoot RAW, it gives you more latitude.

Good luck. There is not one photographer who will say they've stopped learning. It's an ongoing process and that's the beauty of it.



Jul 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM
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p.2 #9 · How did you Learn ?


http://www.amazon.com/Light-Science-Magic-Fourth-Edition/dp/0240812255

http://www.amazon.com/Photography-Barbara-London/dp/0131896091/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343324520&sr=1-4&keywords=photography+upton+and+london

Fredmiranda and Shatterkiss



Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM
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p.2 #10 · How did you Learn ?


Reading
Shooting
Asking questions on forums



Jul 26, 2012 at 01:06 PM
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p.2 #11 · How did you Learn ?


How did I learn photography? Or gear collection or acquisition? Both trial and error for both!!! And both are lots of fun. The FM family is always s riot!!!


Jul 26, 2012 at 01:33 PM
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p.2 #12 · How did you Learn ?


I got my first camera (Brownie Hawkeye) when I was 7. I also borrowed my dad's Zeiss Ikon. The Zeiss required setting shutter and aperture. I started reading instruction sheets. When I was 10 I got a developing outfit. More reading and shooting. It was nice because it made me stretch in reading comprehension of technical data and learning some science. Won my first photo competition at 15. 50+ years later, a degree in commercial photography and a stint as a pro I still love photography.

As has been mentioned, reading and practicing are great. Also, look at as many photographs and artwork as you can. Get books on the history of photography. Learn what has come before you. Looking at all types of art helps.



Jul 26, 2012 at 06:21 PM
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p.2 #13 · How did you Learn ?


Trial and error mostly with Kodachrome 25/64, then some high speed Ektachrome (ISO 160), and Vericolor (C-41) for prints.

EBH



Jul 26, 2012 at 07:07 PM
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p.2 #14 · How did you Learn ?


Shooting, developing, printing; rinse and repeat. That was in the 80s, before EXIF, instant feedback, and photo fora.

Not sure the claim that I know how to do color film and print processing impresses many people, or that it was worth the stench of chemicals



Jul 26, 2012 at 07:21 PM
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p.2 #15 · How did you Learn ?


Nothing beats practice...and more practice...taking photos to test your reaction skills when not really shooting a "keepable" photo...

The most important skill you can develop is automaticity, your ability to act without thought, because it's thinking that delays your response to what you see through the VF...

You have to be able to make decisions without thinking...sensing the changing of light, (feeling the change in temp on the back of your neck is one method I find I use), taking shots while on the move from different sightlines (from ground level to above eye-level), anticipating the next moment and how to frame from different perspectives...

...and developing YOUR ability to accurately auto-focus as well as auto-expose and "auto-frame"....remembering that the only thing auto on your camera is its ability to react to you and your "automaticity"...



Jul 26, 2012 at 10:59 PM
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As a teenager my girlfriend and I developed some interest in photography and she got us a chance to visit a local guy who just happened to be a photographer...for LIFE magazine! Then the Vietnam war and this thing called the draft. Met a fellow in the Army who convinced me to buy a camera, take some photos, and he'd help me develop them in the darkroom. Two year Army stint done with, found myself living in Alaska. Enrolled at the University and took all the photography classes they offered to satisfy my humanities credit requirements. Had one professor tell me I'd never ever publish a photo with National Geographic. I took that as a challenge. She was wrong. Started selling photos to the local newspaper. Met some of the finest mentors (view camera guys, mostly) a photographer could ever want and I'm still learning from them. Started selling photos to magazines, had a portrait studio for a short time, shot a pile of weddings, convinced a NY agent to accept my images and they sell them all over the world. I now have two agents, write and photograph for many magazines, wrote one book, other books in the works, and a bunch of other stuff. I spent 30 years as the senior criminal investigator with the Alaska State Troopers and did a pile of photography in my own cases. I came late to digital and I'm now paying the price for doing so. I'm a photographer, not a computer geek. I photographed action packed wildlife stuff here in Alaska for decades with manual focus, manual aperture cameras. Motor drives? Sure! But everything else was me. I could change apertures and manually focus in the heat of battle without removing my face from the camera and most often get it right. Now I have to learn all about AF settings for different subjects and situations, and noise reduction and Lightroom and a lot of other foreign things. My many thousands of slides, 6x7 and 6x17 transparencies are said to be worthless and at 63 I'm retracing my footsteps of the past, although, climbing up into the clouds after Dall sheep and sleeping in a tent are somewhat problematic with a bad knee and such these days. But I'm also tough and I'll get 'er done all right! I live in a target rich environment for an outdoor photographer, but I'm also a frustrated part time wannabe cowboy with ranching connections in Idaho and used to love to photograph while in the mountains gathering cows and back at the ranch around the corrals and such. Don't get to do that any longer and I hope to change that, too. I photograph those things I love the best; fly fishing, wildlife, bird dogs, hunting, Alaska landscapes, Alaskans, cowboys, horses...and other stuff. A big part of my enjoyment in photography is shooting images of those things I love. I've had to spend a lot of money on new gear, but with all the old, obsolete big white lenses and related gear now piled in a corner in my office, I've enjoyed opening up all of the B&H boxes with the 7Ds, a 5D III, and all the pretty lenses - especially the recently arrived 500! I've put away the Boghen pan/tilt heads and have installed the RRS BH-55, and I'm planning on getting a Wimberly soon.

Having rambled on with all that...it's not just the gear that makes the photographer. I have always been the consumate student. My library is full of books, some of them personally signed by some of the greats of the past. I read a lot online. I talk with as many other photographers as I can, and I'm always looking at photos taken by others. I am the student. I always will be.

Get out and shoot photographs of all sorts of subjects, even those you don't feel so comfortable with. Be bold. Create your own rules.

Welcome aboard! Enjoy the journey and the adventure. Remain the student.

Jim



Jul 27, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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p.2 #17 · How did you Learn ?


Jim McCann wrote:
it's not just the gear that makes the photographer.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
I have always been the consumate student. My library is full of books, [...] I read a lot online.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
I talk with as many other photographers as I can, and I'm always looking at photos taken by others.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
I am the student. I always will be.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
Get out and shoot photographs of all sorts of subjects, even those you don't feel so comfortable with.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
Be bold.
+1 Jim McCann wrote:
Create your own rules.
+1

Jim McCann wrote:
[...] Remain the student.


+1

Jim McCann wrote:
My many thousands of slides, 6x7 and 6x17 transparencies are said to be worthless


That is incorrect. They can be scanned, especially the 6x7 and 6x17. A lot of the 35mm slides might be lower resolution than your average DSLR these days and lower dynamic range, but it doesn't matter if the photo is a great photo. Scan the best of those.



Jul 27, 2012 at 03:13 AM
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p.2 #18 · How did you Learn ?


What helped me a lot was creative learning workshops. I also visit zack Arias's blog often, watched his one light DVD, read loads of info from many websites but overall, I would recommend going to creative learning and sit through their workshops that are free when they are live and you can purchase them too and I really find they are worth the price. So far I have purchased 4 workshops which I had also watched for free while they were live on air. I really enjoyed Don Giannatti's lighting workshop and Zack Arias's workshop.

Good luck and have fun!!



Jul 27, 2012 at 04:16 AM
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p.2 #19 · How did you Learn ?


aperture/ISO/shutter speed...know how they interact

ETTR - expose to the right of the histogram

buy a flash and learn how to use it transparently!

composition is everything...even a poorly exposed and/or out of focus shot that is composed well can be a keeper

browse the forums for examples of the kind of photography YOU like and figure out how the shot was taken

buy gear you enjoy using...or you won't use it much. For me, ergonomics are everything!

learn post-processing methods that work for you

shoot shoot shoot shoot!!!!

most importantly: have fun!



Jul 27, 2012 at 04:57 AM
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p.2 #20 · How did you Learn ?


The same way I learn everything else... The hard way

I learned mostly from lurking on here for about two years before I joined. I also spent a lot of time reading blogs and watching videos from big name photogs (Chase Jarvis being the primary one, mostly because he's a local boy and he's funny).

Another thing that I've found really helped me was get a friend (in my case, a girlfriend, now wife) that likes to shoot too. Having someone to go shooting with and bounce ideas off of is really helpful when you're learning new things.



Jul 27, 2012 at 08:56 AM
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