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lxdesign wrote:
But again -- I have to say: You want a video camera - BUY A VIDEO CAMERA. DSLR's are not video camera's.


Really Tell that to all the pro videographers and movie makers who are using them. DSLR video has had a huge effect on both those industries. Your comment reminds me of the old school guys that swore they'd never cut footage on an NLE back in the day.



Jul 05, 2012 at 03:27 PM
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rd4tile wrote:
Really Tell that to all the pro videographers and movie makers who are using them. DSLR video has had a huge effect on both those industries. Your comment reminds me of the old school guys that swore they'd never cut footage on an NLE back in the day.


Just curious. What percentage of dslr users are those pro videographers and movie makers?

What percentage of dslr users are just trying to get some home movies and would be better served by a dedicated, easier to use, video cam?

How many users used that "feature" as a selling point to the wife? Then, how many of those guys can get their wives to use it as a video cam?

thanks
Kerry



Jul 05, 2012 at 08:05 PM
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I'd recommend the D7000 w/ the Nikkor 16-85 and the Nikkor 70-300 VR lenses. Great place to start w/ solid well performing gear. And the Nikkor 50/1.8 or 85/1.8 would be a nice fast prime to add to the mix. If you aren't sold on full frame, and would be happy w/ a DX crop body, this setup would work fine.

Of course, if Nikon releases the much rumored affordable full frame D600 in the next 6 weeks as expected, then the whole game changes. If you are thinking FF, and can wait, you may want to wait to see what is announced. Of course, what ever is announced will likely be in short supply for some time.

Another option is to get the above mentioned DX set up but get a used Nikon D300 instead of the D7000 for around $750. They are holding their value well and you wouldn't lose much on resale when/if you decide to go FF. Likewise the 16-85. The other lenses I mentioned will all work fine w/ FF so there would be no loss when/if you decide to make the switch from DX to FX.

Hope this helps.



Jul 05, 2012 at 08:55 PM
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I have been shooting with digital Nikons since the early D70 days. I think high pixel density cameras, like the D7K and D800, do have a special learning curve. When I started shooting with the D7000, I wasn't immediately overwhelmed with the results. However, the longer I shoot with it and learn about it, the more impressed I am with it. It is an amazing camera. Color, exposure latitude, focus speed and accuracy are amazing. I think if the OP had spent more time with the D7K he would have been more impressed with it. I played with a D800e a little while the other day. I didn't have the luxury of changing any of the settings to what I have found has worked on my D7000. The results I got reminded me of the first shots I was getting with my 7000. Not overwhelming, to say the least. I found it very difficult to perfectly nail focus. There is no doubt that the D800 is capable of getting amazing results. But the tool has to be adjusted and used correctly. My only disappointment with the D7000 is that there is no 30p or 60i frame rates when shooting 1080 video. And we know the sensor is capable of doing it.


Jul 05, 2012 at 10:40 PM
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Kerry Pierce wrote:
Just curious. What percentage of dslr users are those pro videographers and movie makers?

What percentage of dslr users are just trying to get some home movies and would be better served by a dedicated, easier to use, video cam?

How many users used that "feature" as a selling point to the wife? Then, how many of those guys can get their wives to use it as a video cam?

thanks
Kerry


I responded to this statement: "DSLR's are not video camera's." If you're interested in the exact percentages I suggest you ask Nikon & Canon - I guarantee they can tell you.

And I don't care what anyone has to tell their wife, I just thought the above statement wasn't very accurate and I thought the "bitterness" of video in a DSLR was old news.



Jul 05, 2012 at 11:56 PM
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rd4tile wrote:
I responded to this statement: "DSLR's are not video camera's." If you're interested in the exact percentages I suggest you ask Nikon & Canon - I guarantee they can tell you.

And I don't care what anyone has to tell their wife, I just thought the above statement wasn't very accurate and I thought the "bitterness" of video in a DSLR was old news.


Your statement isn't any more accurate or less "bitter" than the one you responded to. I'm sure that you don't care about that either. But, carry on.

Kerry



Jul 06, 2012 at 01:24 AM
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p.4 #7 · p.4 #7 · D7000 vs D800


D7000 and a 24-120mm f/4 vr2 lens. Good Combo!


Jul 06, 2012 at 02:00 AM
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It's been a few pages since the op has responded to this thread. To top it, the op went ahead and opened a new thread, basically asking the same question. Again. As if 4 pages of conversation and advice isn't enough.

I believe the op is just trolling you guys. Don't feed him.



Jul 06, 2012 at 08:34 AM
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Guari i have been around this board far longer than you have, and for your information i bought a Nikon D800, and love the results with it. I decided to go ahead and part with more money and build the kit slowly over time but have what i want and not always think man i wish i would have bought the D800. The body is in a different league entirely from the D7000 and I find the focus system is as well. The D800 also just feels better in the hand if you have larger hands. To say im a troll because i started a new thread when this one took a pretty big turn from my original question is plain and simple being a jerk adn try to start things. nothing like internet tough guys i swear.


Jul 06, 2012 at 01:20 PM
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Feels better in the hand if you have larger hands I'm guessing you have the battery pack grip too, as without it its seriously bad when you compare it to a D700 for example.
With the grip, its ok. Not great. The D7000 must be awful to hold



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pr4photos wrote:
Feels better in the hand if you have larger hands I'm guessing you have the battery pack grip too, as without it its seriously bad when you compare it to a D700 for example.
With the grip, its ok. Not great. The D7000 must be awful to hold


The D7000 with a grip is awesome....perfect size and weight...



Jul 06, 2012 at 02:15 PM
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rennocneb wrote:
Guari i have been around this board far longer than you have, and for your information i bought a Nikon D800, and love the results with it. I decided to go ahead and part with more money and build the kit slowly over time but have what i want and not always think man i wish i would have bought the D800. The body is in a different league entirely from the D7000 and I find the focus system is as well. The D800 also just feels better in the hand if you have larger hands. To say im a
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I made the assumption since you just left the threads to continue on their own and were making multiple threads on the same subject. That is what trolls do.

With that said, I'm glad you decided to get the camera you wanted. I'm sorry if I had the wrong impression and will gladly say I was mistaken.




Jul 06, 2012 at 02:34 PM
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Guari wrote:
I made the assumption since you just left the threads to continue on their own and were making multiple threads on the same subject. That is what trolls do.


A minor point of disagreement: that is not the definition of what trolls do. Trolls post flamebait, trying to get others riled up and/or pissed off so they can start a fight, or just for the fun of pissing people off. Simply going off and ignoring a conversation you started is not trolling.



Jul 06, 2012 at 02:42 PM
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Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
A minor point of disagreement: that is not the definition of what trolls do. Trolls post flamebait, trying to get others riled up and/or pissed off so they can start a fight, or just for the fun of pissing people off. Simply going off and ignoring a conversation you started is not trolling.


Ok, maybe not "troll" then, but disrespectful to the posters who have lent helpful advice to solve an issue. Opening a second thread asking exactly the same thing means, at least in my view, "I couldn't care less". Then both threads just got dumped.

However, I see I was mistaken and I'm glad to say I was wrong to jump to conclusions. I shouldn't have posted so hastily.

I guess the internet is quite different from the way humans socialise in real life.



Jul 06, 2012 at 02:52 PM
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Ain't that the truth...


Jul 06, 2012 at 05:22 PM
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p.4 #16 · p.4 #16 · D7000 vs D800


Well i didnt mean to offebd abyone id veen reading comments but i do work a ton doing IT so i cant always respond right away


Jul 06, 2012 at 08:21 PM
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Enjoy your camera man, that's what it's all about

sorry again about being an arse,

happy shooting



Jul 06, 2012 at 09:48 PM
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Kerry Pierce wrote:
Just curious. What percentage of dslr users are those pro videographers and movie makers?

What percentage of dslr users are just trying to get some home movies and would be better served by a dedicated, easier to use, video cam?

How many users used that "feature" as a selling point to the wife? Then, how many of those guys can get their wives to use it as a video cam?

thanks
Kerry


I saw a new Nikon D800 owner last weekend at the museum. My wife thought he was a dork for sure. I mean, there he was brimming with pride, his Indiana Jones hat on, following his wife and kids, all the while trying to look at his camera. It was suspended in some two handled rig, and jutting out of the back was some screen thing like is used on computer monitors to prevent stray light coming in from the side. No, he was not wearing black Ferrari leather gloves.

It is probably a safety issue for those around whoever that guy was using one.



Jul 07, 2012 at 11:59 PM
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ShadowWalker wrote:
I'd recommend the D7000 w/ the Nikkor 16-85 and the Nikkor 70-300 VR lenses. Great place to start w/ solid well performing gear. And the Nikkor 50/1.8 or 85/1.8 would be a nice fast prime to add to the mix. If you aren't sold on full frame, and would be happy w/ a DX crop body, this setup would work fine.

Of course, if Nikon releases the much rumored affordable full frame D600 in the next 6 weeks as expected, then the whole game changes. If you are thinking FF, and can wait, you may want to wait to see what
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I strongly agree with the suggestion to wait for the D600. Nikon is on a roll lately and the D600 could be another game changer.



Jul 08, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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OP Did you wait for the D600, or did you go for a D800 or something else?
Just curious



Oct 02, 2012 at 12:52 AM
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