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NygaardDK wrote:
If your primary interest are landscapes/scenics I would say your order of purchase is a bit off.
I would start with the 24-70 - or even better for landscapes the 17-40L which is cheaper. 24mm isnt that wide on a 1.3x crop - and 50mm and 85mm certainly isnt.
And not to critizise your choise of camera - the 1D is an awesome camera, I have a mk2N - but for landscapes I would choose my 5D at any time. 4 megapixel isnt a lot for scenics, leaves no room for cropping whatsoever.
But to make it short - with your interests my first purchase would be something wider than 50mm. ...Show more →
The reason the list is in the order it is is because of $$$ and my lack of it at the moment. Starting with the 50mm would be least costly and still allow me to shoot and practice even if it isn't the particularly type of photography I'm trying to pursue.
ultrapix wrote:
It looks like a bugdet oriented choose. If so, there isn't a better choice than 50 1,8; BTW, just a little more expensive, the 35/2 may fit better your need.
Quite right ultrapix, I've always been struggling to find the money to pick up a DSLR and something that isn't a Rebel or lower end Nikon. Thanks for the suggestion on the 35/2, I will look into it further.
Alan321 wrote:
I'd skip the 50 f/1.8 and get the 50 f/2.5 CM instead for the added versatility. However, a 17-40 f/4L is likely to be more useful for landscapes that need a wide angle of view. Not all do, but enough do to justify a 17-40. It makes a better walk-around lens too.
Before long you'll be wanting a newer camera with more pixels and more mod cons.
- Alan
Thanks for your advice, Alan. I'll keep it in mind and have added it to my list of advice and lens suggestions. I'd love a newer camera (Wouldn't we all?  ) but I think the 1D will be a great place to start.
Psychic1 wrote:
I always liked the 17-40L on the 1D and the 50 CM is excellent everywhere.
Lenmar batteries work well and a 4gig card formatted to FAT in your computer also works.
Enjoy 
Another vote for the 17-40L added to the list.  I've read that others have had success with Lenmar batteries, sure enough one was included in the sale. Now I just need that OEM charger to I can "refresh" it. Is there a particular brand/speed of memory card you would suggest? Thanks for your input Psychic1.
omarlyn wrote:
Hmmm...your first DSLR is a (classic) 1D Don't get me wrong, I love the ol' 1D...In fact, I have two that I regularly use and the 1D is STILL a very capable camera but I would hardly recommend it as a first DSLR. The menu is rather 'cluncky' and the interface to get to all the custom functions requires the old Firewire interface and a copy of the old Eos Utility...it's not exactly user-freindly.
As for your choice of lenses for landscape use...the easy answer you'll get from most people is to get a REALLY wide angle lens...however, there are other ways to do landscape. You can take 'intimate' landscape with a longer focal length and isolate on a particular subject or plane. Further, many of the historically 'classic' landscape images were taken with an equivalent 'normal' focal length which in the case of the 1D would be approximately 40mm.
A search here for 1D batteries will show an almost universal recommendation for Lenmars...I use 'em and get well over 1,000 shots per charge. The OEM charger is nice because it has a 're-fresh' function that does a complete discharge/recharge cycle...they typically go used for about $100 (no more than $120).
That's my 2 cents...just something to consider....YMMV...good luck.
Omar...Show more →
Hi Omar, the reason I chose the 1D to start with was because of a thread here on FM. A lot of users were commenting on how they wished they'd never sold theirs or how they still put it to good use so many years after it's release. As far as customizations go, my macbook has a f/w port so I'll have to find a cable and look into that, thanks for mentioning it and the advice on shooting. The hunt continues for the OEM charger!
anthonygh wrote:
What is your budget?
If it is low...research the USM 24 - 85mm
If it is reasonable...research the 17 - 40L ...and consider changing your body. A 40D will be much better for what you want to do.
Remember you might need other stuff...a decent tripod and filter set for example...not cheap.
My budget low. Low to the ground low. I will take into consideration the 24-85 per your suggestion and add another + next to the 17-40. I'll also look into tripods. Can you generically suggest a filter set or do they differ for intended use? I'll look into that some. Thanks, Anthony.
Hammy wrote:
Oh my, nothing like other people to spend your money for you!
I will agree with others, glass will be key to your growth in photography. Good glass will outlive several generations of bodies.
However, I believe you are a crossroads of Getting Started Street and Budget Freeway.
The nifty fifty (f/1.8) will get you a long ways before satisfying your itch to get the better glass recommended here. Great landscapes can be had at 50mm and stitching. Cheap to free software will get you high resolution landscapes with a little technique.
Adding lens extensions can get you some decent macros before committing to a macro lens.
The only drawback to the 1D classic (I have two of them, along with 2x Mk2Ns and 7D) is that exposures more than about 15 seconds generates amplifier blooms in two of the corners of the sensor:
http://www.thecgo.com/id31.html
Options are to crop the image within the affected area as noted, or work with shorter image durations and stack the images.
The 1D is a great body - a milestone when it came out. You'll be able to get great images. I highly recommend reading the manual a couple times to understand the full capability of options available to you....Show more →
Thanks for your advice, Hammy. I feel like you get where I'm coming from. I intend on reading the manual many times (when I can find a copy.)
jasonpatrick wrote:
+1 - no sense having two 50mm's, especially since the 1.8 needs to be stopped down a bit to get really sharp. the 2.5 is good wide open. The 17-40 will suit your landscape needs. After those two the 85 or 70-200mm f/4 would be a good addition.
4mp's isn't much, but I'd rather dive into DSLR's with a 1D classic than a t3 for sure.
Do you think that a 50 f/1.8 + extension tube would work just as well as the 50 f/2.5? Another +1 to the 17-40 on my advice list and have taken note of your other suggestions. Thanks, Jason.
lexvo wrote:
I agree with the others: start with the 50/2.5 CM.
And here are some old articles I wrote about the 1D
http://lex1963.home.xs4all.nl/foto/Lex/1d_classic.html
http://lex1963.home.xs4all.nl/foto/Lex/1d_high_ISO.html
http://lex1963.home.xs4all.nl/foto/Lex/1d_concert.html
Interesting, that makes it 3 votes for the 50 f/2.5. I've always read about how great the "nifty fifty" is but I'll have to really consider the "nifty fifty 2.5." Thanks for linking to your articles, Lex. I'll give them a read when I get out of class later today.
I'd like to say again that I am extremely grateful for all of your input. All of your comments have got the gears in my head turning and I'll be able to make better informed decisions because of that. Thank you. Also, if you have any more fuel to add to the fire, please don't hold back!
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