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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon 85 1.8G


I just got the 50 1.4g and love it. It is so smooth, fast, and sharp *compared to my previous lenses..



I currently have the manual focus 85 1.4 by rokinon, I love the focal length and sharpness but I am lazy and kinda getting tired of manual focusing so I'm thinking about picking this lens up....


I just read a review on it and checked out some sample images and I am thoroughly impressed and it looks like a great alternative to the 85 1.4.

Question: Pre order from Amazon or save up a bit more and get the 85 1.4?

Heres the link to the preorder I would get: Nikon 85mm f/1.8G AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon Digital SLR Cameras

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Apr 07, 2012 at 02:22 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon 85 1.8G


a bit more?? isnt it triple the price?? buy the 1.8G and you can always sell it, I like mine.


Apr 07, 2012 at 02:27 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon 85 1.8G


I'm actually looking at the 85 f/1.4D as a possible first lens in my planned switch to Nikon...


Apr 07, 2012 at 02:45 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon 85 1.8G


You also may look at Sigma 85 f/1.4.


Apr 07, 2012 at 02:52 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon 85 1.8G


I have the 1.8D and I love it. I imagine the 1.8G is amazing. I can't see why you'd go with the 1.4 when it's triple the price unless you have a large amount of money to spend or would be unhappy with the performance of the 1.8.


Apr 07, 2012 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nikon 85 1.8G


f/1.4 looks different from f/1.8.


Apr 07, 2012 at 02:59 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon 85 1.8G


"I just got the 50 1.4g and love it. It is so smooth, fast, and sharp.."

wow. i think you will love all nikon glass then, because 50 1.4G is probably worst "thereisnoprooption" lens in nikon camp



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Interesting topic.

I bought the 50mm f/1.8G instead of the f/1.4G because in tests it seemed sharper and it has less distortion. The additional 2/3 of a stop I sacrificed for those two.

With the 85mm lenses the problem is similar: the f/1.8G seems slightly sharper in tests and also shows less distortion than the bigger brother. In addition, the focus shift when stopping down appears to be much smaller for the f/1.8G than the f/1.4G. On the other hand the f/1.4G shows slightly better bokeh and less flare.

I am basing my conclusions on the Photozone reviews, which I have found to be fairly neutral and objective in the past:
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/717-nikkorafs8518ff
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/606-nikkorafs8514ff

There are not many photographers who have both lenses, so there is not much direct comparison between the 1.8G and 1.4G in real-life field shooting, but for only one-third of the money the 85mm f/1.8G seems to perform better in many respects and only slightly worse in some.

For me personally, luckily, the price difference is not hugely relevant, but I think the focus shift when stopping down might be an issue for me and I prefer sharper pictures over less sharp ones. The bokeh I see from the f/1.8G is still plenty nice in my eyes and I am as good as decided to go with the cheaper lens, but not because of the different price but because I think it may actually be the better lens, just as I think the 50mm f/1.8G is a better lens than the 50mm f/1.4G (in spite of the aspherical element the 50mm f.1.4G sports).

It would, of course, be interesting to hear what my fellow photographers have to say about my thoughts...



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Kittyk wrote:
50 1.4G is probably worst "thereisnoprooption" lens in nikon camp


Not following you here.



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Peter, nice point. I choose 1.8G over 1.4G too and couldn't be happier. Nikon makes very good lenses for consumer market.


Apr 07, 2012 at 03:45 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon 85 1.8G


form wrote:
I'm actually looking at the 85 f/1.4D as a possible first lens in my planned switch to Nikon...


I'm looking at 85/1.4's for Nikon, as well. The 1.4D does NOT have "full time manual" focus, if that matters either way.



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:47 PM
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Technician wrote:
Peter, nice point. I choose 1.8G over 1.4G too and couldn't be happier. Nikon makes very good lenses for consumer market.


Hi Technician,

Thanks for the response. Did you pick the 1.8G over the 1.4G for the 50mm or the 85mm lens?



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:54 PM
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D. Diggler wrote:
Not following you here.


i meant it so that 50G is supposed to be pro lens, because there is no pro alternative, but it is worst pro lens in nikon. in reality, it is consumer lens which pros have to use because there is nothing better. f1.8G is step in right direction, it is awesome replacement for good old AF-D.



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nikon 85 1.8G


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Apr 07, 2012 at 03:57 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Kittyk wrote:
i meant it so that 50G is supposed to be pro lens, because there is no pro alternative, but it is worst pro lens in nikon. in reality, it is consumer lens which pros have to use because there is nothing better. f1.8G is step in right direction, it is awesome replacement for good old AF-D.


I agree. I had the 50mm f/1.8D for a long time and when it stopped properly focusing to infinity I replaced it with the 1.8G for the reasons outlined above. I am very happy with the lens and think it is actually better than the 50mm f/1.4G.



Apr 07, 2012 at 03:58 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Cormac wrote:
The 85mm f/1.4 G spanks the f/1.8 G in the Photozone tests you link to. Way to prove your point.


Hi Cormac,

Thanks for your input, even though your statement surprises me a bit. Do you mind pointing out for the obtuse in what aspect the 1.4G "spanks" the 1.8G?


  1. Distortion for the 1.8G is 0.177% pincushion for the 1.4G 0.479% barrel. 1.8G wins.
  2. Vignetting for the 1.8G is 0.67 at f/2.8 and 0.4 at f/4, for the 1.4G it is 0.48 and 0.20. 1.4G wins.
  3. MTF resolution for the 1.8G is 3821 at f/2.8 and 3554 wide open, for the 1.4G it is 3787 and 3485. 1.8G wins.
  4. Chromatic aberration for the 1.8G is 0.62 at f/2.8 and 0.71 wide open, for the 1.4G it is 0.72 and 0.74. 1.8G wins.
  5. Bokeh: 1.4G wins but the difference is not dramatic in my eyes.
  6. Bokeh fringing: 1.8G wins by a margin.
  7. Focus shift when stopping down: 1.8G wins hands down.


The 1.8G wins everything but two contests (vignetting and bokeh). Flare was not tested, but my money is on the 1.4G here because of the nano coating. So where does the spanking take place?



Apr 07, 2012 at 04:12 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikon 85 1.8G


not even gonna go there.
(please note the time & date of the "new 'monkey"...thank you)



Apr 07, 2012 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Peter Mueller wrote:
Hi Technician,

Thanks for the response. Did you pick the 1.8G over the 1.4G for the 50mm or the 85mm lens?


For 50 mm. Sorry, forgot to elaborate. As for 85, I am not convinced to own neither 1.4 or 1.8 version due to rendering style not up to my taste. Sigma 85 is ok.



Apr 07, 2012 at 04:32 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Nikon 85 1.8G


Technician wrote:
As for 85, I am not convinced to own neither 1.4 or 1.8 version due to rendering style not up to my taste. Sigma 85 is ok.


In one comparison I saw, the Nikon rendering style looked better to me than the Sig. Nikon looked more realistic whereas the Sig looked more painterly.



Apr 07, 2012 at 04:38 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Nikon 85 1.8G


D. Diggler wrote:
In one comparison I saw, the Nikon rendering style looked better to me than the Sig. Nikon looked more realistic whereas the Sig looked more painterly.


Yep, Sigma has more gentle touch to blur. I like it much.



Apr 07, 2012 at 04:55 PM
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