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AndreasE
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p.1 #1 · Who is the winner in the night?


Interested in a night comparison? Read on.

I did take 4 bodies: D3, D3s, D4, D800 and took this scenery with all ISO ranges.
Manual exposure, tripod, etc ...

#1: First example - ISO 6400:

A scenery in Vienna. Night, dark & lamps.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318622/original.jpg

We are running at ISO 6400. NR in camera is set to OFF. NR in CNX2 is set to OFF as well (to avoid mandatory NR processing)

100% crop: D3
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318621/original.jpg

Same crop: D800, scaled to the size of the D3
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318626/original.jpg

Same crop: D4, scaled to the size if the D3
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318624/original.jpg


#2: Switch to ISO 100/200. Same area.

D3, ISO 200
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318807/original.jpg

D800, ISO 100, scaled to D3 size
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142318824/original.jpg


#3: All images resized to 1920x1280 at base ISO
Quite a few people told others that beyond a certain size, the higher excess resolution doesn't matter. To validate this claim, please find enclosed 4 images resized from the respective original size to 1920x1280. No post processing whatsoever.

D3, ISO 200
D3S, ISO 200
D4, ISO 100
D800, ISO 100

I'd say, the D4 and D800 are the new benchmarks ....

rgds,
Andy



Mar 26, 2012 at 06:36 PM
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p.1 #2 · Who is the winner in the night?


Andy,
Thanks for all the work and sharing you are doing on these new cameras. Well done Sir. Now to sell a car to get the d800..



Mar 26, 2012 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #3 · Who is the winner in the night?


In the first 4 images that are scaled to the size of the D3, you can see the extra detail of the D800 in the corrugated metal on the inside of the train tracks and on the light area of the track to the right of the red light - same with the D4 image but to a lesser extent.

And with the low ISO shot. Wow



Mar 26, 2012 at 06:51 PM
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p.1 #4 · Who is the winner in the night?


The dinamic range of the D800 is truly amazing and can clearly be seen here.

I also noticed that the D800 noise (iso 6400 pic) is more "canon-like" (chroma noise).
The D4 seems to have this tendency as well, though not so noticeable.
One of the things I really appreciated about Nikon's noise was that it was film-like grain.


Many thanks for this test.



Mar 26, 2012 at 06:51 PM
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p.1 #5 · Who is the winner in the night?


Nice test, but, I didn't see a D3s, at least not a pic id as a D3s--or am I going blind?


Mar 26, 2012 at 06:57 PM
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p.1 #6 · Who is the winner in the night?


James R wrote:
Nice test, but, I didn't see a D3s, at least not a pic id as a D3s--or am I going blind?

At the bottom of the post. The 4 photos with 1920x1280 each (D3, D3s, D4, D800).
rgds,
Andy




Mar 26, 2012 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #7 · Who is the winner in the night?


Inadvertently, Andy, you've once again demonstrated that you own EVERY camera and lens that Nikon has every released... One might call this an abundance of riches...

Thanks for the comparison. The D800 appears to be a game changing camera. Once again Nikon has moved the bar higher...



Mar 26, 2012 at 07:04 PM
AndreasE
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p.1 #8 · Who is the winner in the night?


CGrindahl wrote:
Inadvertently, Andy, you've once again demonstrated that you own EVERY camera and lens that Nikon has every released...

Curtis,
to be precise. This is only true for Nikon D bodies. With lenses, I still have a long way to go ....

Thanks for the comparison. The D800 appears to be a game changing camera. Once again Nikon has moved the bar higher...

You are welcome. The D800 is indeed a game changing camera. No doubt about it.

rgds,
Andy



Mar 26, 2012 at 07:08 PM
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p.1 #9 · Who is the winner in the night?


Andy, I hope you remember the thread I started frustrated after the rumors about a 36MP camera as a D700 replacement... you was kindly explaining how things will work with the new camera...

I am a happy user of D800 now and this camera is blowing my brain every day...

Nikon is good to us!

BTW thanks for these comparison shots!... I already got some workable images at HI2 from D800... Its a beast!



Mar 26, 2012 at 07:30 PM
AndreasE
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p.1 #10 · Who is the winner in the night?


Mishu01 wrote:
Andy, I hope you remember the thread I started frustrated after the rumors about a 36MP camera as a D700 replacement... you was kindly explaining how things will work with the new camera...
I am a happy user of D800 now and this camera is blowing my brain every day...


Sure I do :-)

Hope my explanations then were correct ....

BTW, enjoy your new camera, I think it is a hell of a camera capable of so many things.

rgds,
Andy




Mar 26, 2012 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #11 · Who is the winner in the night?


Thanks for your efforts here Andy. The detail, DR & cleanness of the shadow areas on the D800 ISO100 shot are pretty impressive. If the D400 can reproduce something similar I'll be very happy.

Cheers
Leigh



Mar 26, 2012 at 08:36 PM
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p.1 #12 · Who is the winner in the night?


Andy
Hope it is alright to call you that.
All the time and effort you put into educating us, is so much appreciated.
I can’t thank you enough for all your posts.
I have had my D800 four days now, and I am just amazed by it.
Dennis



Mar 26, 2012 at 09:23 PM
AndreasE
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p.1 #13 · Who is the winner in the night?


Thanks Dennis, appreciated.
It is rather a sharing attitude vs. educating "mission" - and fun as well.

D800, AFS 300mm/VR II, ISO 200, f4, 1/4000 sec, handheld
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142329132/original.jpg

Full resolution of the D800
1920x1080 downsized

100% crop, as usual, no postprocessing
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142329133/original.jpg


regards,
Andy



Mar 27, 2012 at 03:42 AM
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p.1 #14 · Who is the winner in the night?


Wow, who said it couldn't be handheld! Hehehe....


Mar 27, 2012 at 04:53 AM
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p.1 #15 · Who is the winner in the night?


ok got to call my dealer to check on my baby look at the details from the d800


Mar 27, 2012 at 07:30 AM
AndreasE
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p.1 #16 · Who is the winner in the night?


If interested how a night shot in full resolution looks like

D800, ISO 100, f8, 8 sec
7360x4912


rgds,
Andy



Mar 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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p.1 #17 · Who is the winner in the night?


I don't know why the hell I come here - every time i read a d800 thread I get a bit jealous and almost regret I switched brands (almost) I actually really like this shot, also, so it's cool to see something I would keep (with a few tweaks) as a test shot.



Mar 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #18 · Who is the winner in the night?


The D3 black point looks totally different to the D800 and D4 or is it just me?


Mar 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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p.1 #19 · Who is the winner in the night?


I guess Google can now switch to the D800 for their satellite images of Earth. Andy, these are remarkable.


Mar 27, 2012 at 01:13 PM
AndreasE
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p.1 #20 · Who is the winner in the night?


@cputeq
Glad you like my test location .... :-)

@Mark_L
All of the bodies use the factory default standard picture control. Looks like the contrast curve for the D3 tries to keep the midtones darker (due to more noise?).

@LXShooter
I do a lot of night photography, and most of the shots are great if a tripod is nearby. The resolution combined with teh dynamic range make it easy to work with.

rgds,
Andy



Mar 27, 2012 at 01:20 PM





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