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p.1 #1 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


How much better is the 5D3's sensor compared to the 5D2's? Are we talking about a major upgrade or a more modest one in terms of IQ at low and high ISOs. I am only interested in improvements in RAW images please, not the JPEG engines. Thank you.


Mar 26, 2012 at 01:00 AM
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p.1 #2 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


David Baldwin wrote:
How much better is the 5D3's sensor compared to the 5D2's? Are we talking about a major upgrade or a more modest one in terms of IQ at low and high ISOs. I am only interested in improvements in RAW images please, not the JPEG engines. Thank you.


Based on the samples I've seen and analyzed, the objective improvement in raw noise is about 1/2 stop. But there's also the elimination of High ISO banding and what appears to my eyes better High ISO dynamic range and color fidelity, so I think the subjective difference may be up to 1 stop or more, depending on the content of the image.

As for low ISO I haven't seen much if any difference.



Mar 26, 2012 at 01:10 AM
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p.1 #3 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


After reading the other 20 threads on this exact topic, I still don't know the answer


Mar 26, 2012 at 01:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


After putting some 2500 shots on mine, I will say that the sensor isn't a whole world better than the 5D2. It's a bit better. But it's not earth shattering. And in my opinion it has way more amp glow than the 5D2.

But as a whole camera, the 5D3 is miles ahead of the 5D2. Like, it actually focuses!



Mar 26, 2012 at 01:23 AM
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p.1 #5 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


David Baldwin wrote:
How much better is the 5D3's sensor compared to the 5D2's?


1/3 of a stop improvement at ISO-6400; a bit more at higher ISOs.
The 5DIII also has a more "pure" red color filter, resulting in slightly better colors.
The DxO test will give us exact numbers soon.

Overall, very nice refinements over the 5DII but nothing major, really.
Much bigger improvement in JPG, since the JPG engine in the 5DIII is as good as a good RAW converter.



Mar 26, 2012 at 01:31 AM
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p.1 #6 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


Firstly given how bizarre DXO's lens results are I would not place one bit of faith in anything they write anywhere at anytime.
As for the 5 series the AF is far superior very accurate and immpretty impressed.
As for ISO it more than half a stop as the remaining noise is far more grain like and more pleasant looking.
Very impressed..



Mar 26, 2012 at 03:04 AM
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p.1 #7 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


I had no idea that my 5DII didn't focus


Mar 26, 2012 at 04:47 AM
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p.1 #8 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


I have been using my 5DmkII for weddings and motorsports since I purchased it....64,000 clicks later and its still focusses brilliantly.

If the focus is "better" on the 5DMkIII, then Im sure it will make some people happy.




Mar 26, 2012 at 08:11 AM
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p.1 #9 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


IMHO with 5d2 the only focus which works is MF


Mar 26, 2012 at 08:14 AM
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p.1 #10 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


Stan, is the amp glow as bad as the 1Ds3? Noticeable difference from the 5D2? I like doing lots of long exposure night shots. Is the 5D3 not best suited for this? Thanks.


Mar 26, 2012 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #11 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


BennyR wrote:
Stan, is the amp glow as bad as the 1Ds3? Noticeable difference from the 5D2? I like doing lots of long exposure night shots. Is the 5D3 not best suited for this? Thanks.


The technical editor at dpreview noticed it as well and sent samples to Canon for comment:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=41027447

There's an example of a D800 102,400 image that demonstrates similar behavior here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=41026826



Mar 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM
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p.1 #12 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


So they're saying the "amp glow" is only an issue using H1 and H2 (ISO 51k and 102k). I think I can live with that.


Mar 26, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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p.1 #13 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


Based on the comparisons so far I haven't seen any considerable difference in IQ between the two cameras however AF is a main priority of mine, and the 5DIII is clearly much better in that department. I can live with an incremental IQ upgrade.


Mar 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #14 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


BennyR wrote:
Stan, is the amp glow as bad as the 1Ds3? Noticeable difference from the 5D2? I like doing lots of long exposure night shots. Is the 5D3 not best suited for this? Thanks.


In my book, the amp glow is as bad as on the 1Ds3 and is pronounced on some 3200 and all 6400 and above shots. Definitely worse than 5D2.



Mar 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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p.1 #15 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


There seems to be some variance in published reports and it might be due to software issues processing the Mark III RAW files. For example, there seems to be a bug in the DPP software when using the "High Quality" setting, which results in softer images. Also, I would disable all sharpness parameters, NR and lens corrections when comparing photos with the Mark II. As Canon and Adobe fix their RAW processors to cope with the new RAW format, I bet we'll see better results.

Thus far my impression is that the Mark III is a step better than the Mark II at low ISO and significantly better above ISO 800.

Posted more details here: http://imransblog.com/2012/03/25/initial-impressions-canon-5d-mark-iii



Mar 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #16 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


Maybe people that actually OWN the camera could give an informed opinion, as opposed to those who've seen a report somebody else made based on what another guy posted?


Mar 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


my returned 5d2 had a back focusing problem on the top point. I didn't check out anything else after that. For the money that we are paying for the camera, it's NOT acceptable to have 1/9 focus points not working.


Mar 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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p.1 #18 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


Here's a link, comparison between 5D Mark II and III :

http://michaelthemaven.com/?postID=2264&canon-5diii-portrait-tests-5diii-vs-5dii



Mar 26, 2012 at 12:41 PM
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p.1 #19 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


No doubt, 5d3 is better than 5d2 - just for AF alone is worth an upgarde but its IQ can be better better if canon taking a little more time


Mar 26, 2012 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #20 · 5D2 vs 5D3 - how much better is the 5D3's sensor?


timbop wrote:
Maybe people that actually OWN the camera could give an informed opinion, as opposed to those who've seen a report somebody else made based on what another guy posted?


THIS !



Mar 26, 2012 at 02:24 PM
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