p.2 #5 · 24/3.5 PS-E and D800 are not fully compatible?
Heh.
Deja vu.
It will be exactly the same on the D800 as it is on the D300/700/7000, and to a greater extent on the D3100/5100.
All tilts will be possible, all shifts possible with the limitation of about 8mm upwards shift. To get side shift/up tilt, the lens will need to be rotated with shift knob down as it won't fit under the flash housing. This will only affect the 24; the 45 and 85 have no issues.
No it's not new, yes it is annoying, hopefully Nikon will update the PC-Es soon to have ring adjustment and independent tilt and shift axes. Given they were updated in 2008 though, not holding my breath.
Incidentally the same thing happens on the 24 TS-E with a 7D, but not the 5D.
p.2 #8 · 24/3.5 PS-E and D800 are not fully compatible?
Jammy Straub wrote:
Keeping F-mount compatibility is not the issue, not having the forward thinking to realize their future bodies would be in the D200 format and not allowing user rotatable axis are.
It's not like Nikon doesn't know how to design lenses, I think they were honestly rushed because Nikon wanted to compete with the excellent TS-E lenses. Either that or they just weren't well thought out.
The second. The mechanism design is the same as the old (1999) 85 PC (which had tilt as well as shift, but no electronic aperture). In addition, the 24 and 45 were released before the 17 TS-E and 24 TS-E II. If the 17 and 24 II had been released sooner, I think the PC-Es would have been better designed.
p.2 #10 · 24/3.5 PS-E and D800 are not fully compatible?
I wonder if Samyang will fix this with their upcoming 24mm T/S. These guys have delivered what are by most accounts wonderful MF lenses, if they continue the tradition the 24mm T/S will be a hot seller.
p.2 #11 · 24/3.5 PS-E and D800 are not fully compatible?
j.liam wrote:
Design is compromise. Something has to give. When you consider that nearly all NIkkors back to 1977 are compatible and Canon tossed away the entire FD line, it's not so horrible a decision.
Yes, Canon tossed away their FD system and line of FD lenses, redeveloped their whole DSLR system, and and in doing so, captured the Professional Photography market, which had previously been dominated by Nikon. Not to mention Canon dominating the amateur market in DSLRs and P&S a short time later.
I agree, Nikon screwed up when they had the chance to produce world-class PC lenses and came up short.
The D800 is a great step, but now comes the tough part, filling those big shoes with great glass. Meanwhile, Canon has been working diligently to upgrade their glass.
It should be an interesting year or two coming up and these two giants duke-it-out for top bodies and lenses. Right now, bodies advantage = Nikon, lens advantage = Canon. I doubt either will rest.
