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dmacmillan wrote:. However, that's not quite the same as getting advice from strangers over the internet.
Actually, it is ...
In each case, the student must decide whether to accept or reject the input from the external source ... strive to understand what/why the advice is being presented ... and then embrace, incorporate or abandon the tenets of what is being offered. It's not like a student has never changed teachers.
I realize there is an issue of 'credibility' of a well known and time tested teacher vs. the hodge-podge of junk that can freely flow @ the internet, but that doesn't negate the students need to utilize their own discernment regarding the critique. Picasso may have told a student that their work was too literal, while Rembrandt may have said the same piece was too interpretive. The student would still have to discern whether the advice of Picasso vs. Rembrandt was most relative to his efforts, direction, goals and vision.
We get that Doug and Chuck are at polar opposite regarding approach ... we really don't need to have that incessantly pointed out. Karen likes 'punchy' and "swirly" things more than others at times, Kaden likes "Kaden things", Bob, Scott & I have our own vibe as do so many others. We are all simply offering our opinions and advice, as well as sharing and baring some of ourselves.
Sometimes I listen to what Chuck has to say, other times I dismiss it as "he isn't getting me on this one" ... same goes for everyone's input. BUT, in all regards, it is contingent upon me to discern what/which of the advice / opinion I'm going to adopt or reject and try to understand why that is. It is very nice to have a place where we can be subjected to the variation of input and advice.
One of the cool parts of this forum is that it is easy to "revisit" something that today I didn't get or want to embrace ... and then later, when the "light comes on" ... I can go back to it and benefit from it. If it was never written, then I would never have that option to consider it, either today ... or tomorrow. Sometimes I realize that it wasn't that "they didn't get me", but instead that "I didn't get them".
Trying to restrict ... ANY OF US ... is counter-productive. None of us are trying to suggest that we are the AUTHORITY on a matter, just sharing our experience, knowledge and opinion. It is still contingent upon the READER to make those discernments ... not a censorship effort that they aren't worthy to be written and shared.
I'm a bit less "organic" than someone like Kaden or Karen and have "my thing" @ "drawing the eye" and "What's the point?" ... but they don't go around telling me to "give it a rest", nor do I tell them that their "organic" stuff is wrong because it doesn't utilize my sense of how to go about things.
When we post up here ... good grief ... we EXPECT to get differing opinions and perspectives. Some are technical, some are organic, some are fun, some are weird, some are classic, some are avante garde ... that's awesome stuff. The goal here is to provide critical analysis (and opinion) of the images ... not to criticize others for expressing their opinions. Explaining why you offer a counter opinion, sure ... but telling someone their opinion has no place here because of XYZ, not so much. The OP/reader gets to decide and filter what he wants to embrace / reject.
Lord knows I've had plenty of my stuff refuted, countered and rejected, but nobody is telling me to stop offering my opinions and perspectives. Heck, I even counter myself along the way ... and am by no means an authority such as a Picasso or Rembrandt. I'm still gonna offer my opinion ... if the OP finds that he prefers the input from Picasso over mine ... so be it. That doesn't mean that one of the readers may not have found value in my input moreover than Picasso's. Who's to say whether or not what I (or others) have written will "connect" or "not connect" with another member? It's not like we don't have any lurkers or new members coming around.
This isn't about being right, it's about striving to help our fellow members with growth and understanding ... through critical analysis and encouragement, both subjective and objective, organic and structured, technical and intuitive ... i.e. it's all fair game (even when it misses the mark) ... and no single one of us can provide it all as well as we do collectively. So, I would politely request that we stop trying to diminish / invalidate the input of others just becasue we don't agree with it ... instead staying focused on striving to help foster the craft and vision that we are all passionate toward.
FM ROCKS !!!