I've just ordered my D800 and now I'm having serious thoughts about how hard it will be trying to get tack sharp images in the shutter speeds that I'm used to. I'm thinking if I can get a near sharp image handheld on my D90 with 1/50 I may need something like 1/100 on the D800 (I'm just using hypothetical numbers). As an enthusiast who does this for a hobby Im starting to think that it will not be easy/convenient to use the full potential of the D800. I know some people have mentioned that technique will be the shortfall for many D800 users and I'm no tripod hugger so I'll be shooting mostly handheld. Is this bothering anyone else?
My rule of thumb is to try not to go under the focal length of your lens. Lets say you're shooting with an 85mm prime, then don't go with anything slower then 1/85th.
Since the D90 is a cropped camera, meaning magnification of the lens focal length is x1.5, you would normally use a faster shutter speed then a FF camera with the same lens.
So for example, on the D90 with an 85mm, I would stick around 1/125 where as on the D800(or any FF), I'd stick around 1/85 as a minimum.
My rule of thumb is to try not to go under the focal length of your lens. Lets say you're shooting with an 85mm prime, then don't go with anything slower then 1/85th.
Since the D90 is a cropped camera, meaning magnification of the lens focal length is x1.5, you would normally use a faster shutter speed then a FF camera with the same lens.
So for example, on the D90 with an 85mm, I would stick around 1/125 where as on the D800(or any FF), I'd stick around 1/85 as a minimum.
That's just my 2cents.
So, if you were shooting FX, but planning to crop to roughly DX size, you would use your DX multiplier? That's about how much sense your approach makes.
This is a myth that got repeated enough times to become an 'internet fact.' It takes 2-3x the focal length to get consistently sharp images regardless of the sensor size.
With my D3 I almost always go 2X the focal length if I am hand holding. But I use a tripod for about 85 % of the time.
I might add that I very rarely use any lens longer than my 105 f2 DC. And I am very anxious to try it on the D800.
I am one of the few that didn’t want video, but the more I think about it, I think it will be enjoyable to learn how to use it, and I do think it will make money for me, I just had to get my head out of the sand about video.
Dennis
Dennis H. wrote:
With my D3 I almost always go 2X the focal length if I am hand holding.
A better strategy than the old 1/FL if you're concerned with sharpness. No matter my FL (which is under 50mm most of the time), I always try and shoot at at least 1/125 and my auto ISO is often set at 1/160.
If you want to extract max detail from that 36mp sensor... You'll probably find yourself looking at your technique very carefully.
As with every camera iteration / generation, it will separate those who will be shooting ever sharper images of brick walls from those who will be maximizing the creative capabilities of the photographer in concert with the best tool.
rirakuma wrote:
I've just ordered my D800 and now I'm having serious thoughts about how hard it will be trying to get tack sharp images in the shutter speeds that I'm used to. I'm thinking if I can get a near sharp image handheld on my D90 with 1/50 I may need something like 1/100 on the D800 (I'm just using hypothetical numbers). As an enthusiast who does this for a hobby Im starting to think that it will not be easy/convenient to use the full potential of the D800. I know some people have mentioned that technique will be the shortfall for many D800 users and I'm no tripod hugger so I'll be shooting mostly handheld. Is this bothering anyone else?...Show more →
Going from a 1ds (11mp) to a 1ds III (21mp) I found a 400mm IS required 1/600-1/800 for tack sharp at 21mp and only 1/200th at 11mp.
At 200mm or less I found matching the shutter speed to focal length worked fine for 21mp.
They were saying the same thing when the jump was to 24mp.
You will see a difference it may not appear in every situation. I could shoot the d3x at equal shutter speeds as the d3 but I had to focus on tequnique more. You become use to taking that extra second to make sure you are steady. The d3x would magnify any movement much more then the d3. This will be the same with the d800.
Well, considering that the DX crop of the D800 is approximately equal to the D7000, I would say that whatever it takes to get a sharp image out of the D7000 would be the baseline for sharp images out of the D800.
The topic seems to concern motion blur, primiarily, with AF. Realize all focus is subject to statistical variation. Your probability of focus will greatly improve if you capture a burst of shots. Inevitabily
one or two of the group will more closely approach optimum focus.
There is a Canonpaper about this, after the release of the 7D issued, and it says that you have to use shorters exposure times, because the moving is quicker more than 1 px with more pix on the sensor, the same with diffraction and CA. The diffraction and CA stay the same but the quicker more than 1px.
have you shot much with a D3x? you are way underestimating the improvement in technique you have to learn. i keep over 1/250s except in emergencies when hand holding with my 85/1.4.
Herb...
rirakuma wrote:
I've just ordered my D800 and now I'm having serious thoughts about how hard it will be trying to get tack sharp images in the shutter speeds that I'm used to. I'm thinking if I can get a near sharp image handheld on my D90 with 1/50 I may need something like 1/100 on the D800 (I'm just using hypothetical numbers). As an enthusiast who does this for a hobby Im starting to think that it will not be easy/convenient to use the full potential of the D800. I know some people have mentioned that technique will be the shortfall for many D800 users and I'm no tripod hugger so I'll be shooting mostly handheld. Is this bothering anyone else?...Show more →
The D800 has the same pixel density as the D7000. There was a lot of static on various forums about focus issues and soft photos etc. from the D7000. Granted, there were a few issues with AF on some bodies, but in the main it was user error....
It'll be interesting to hear how users moving up from the very forgiving D700 fare with the really unforgiving D800.
Jammy Straub wrote:
A better strategy than the old 1/FL if you're concerned with sharpness. No matter my FL (which is under 50mm most of the time), I always try and shoot at at least 1/125 and my auto ISO is often set at 1/160.
+1
i do this to eliminate the majority of subject-motion blur, which is the more prevalent problem for my shooting.
You'll probably find yourself looking at your technique very carefully.