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p.1 #1 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Shot some moorre Gymnastics this pasted weekend.. Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State
Maryland won by a full point 194.475, with UNC a 2nd 193.125 and BGSU at 191.50

Tried a new lens this meet (well new to me) a used Nikon Nikkor 35-70mm f/2.8D
worked really well.. I normally would use the 70-200 f/2.8, but I found while good for close ups or portraits it was too close to get good action shots, with out chopping something off.. especially when you have limited shooting positions or the best ones are center floor. This meet some of the best spots where center floor.

The images are a bit soft, this is probably because I shot at freek'n 4000 iso!!! I forgot to knock the setting down to 3200 before the meet started.. (FYI iso H0.3 not really recommended on the D300)
they came out really well, I think the lenses is a keeper

anyway enough of my jabbering.. here's some shots.
(C&C welcome)
1. typical turn out for a meet, well probably not typical since it was Super Bowl Sunday
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v38/p181488347-4.jpg

2. BGSU on bars
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v41/p373497618-5.jpg

3. UNC on beam
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v35/p396037521-5.jpg

4. UNC beam
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v41/p517934900-5.jpg

5. BGSU on bars
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v45/p42986012-5.jpg

6. UMD on bars
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v45/p426199467-5.jpg

7. BGSU on beam
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v45/p21960133-5.jpg

8. UMD on beam
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v40/p215588341-5.jpg

9. The iPad has seem to replace the phones for video..
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v44/p443146748-4.jpg

10. UNC bars
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v35/p391880299-5.jpg

11. UMD floor
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v40/p286073747-5.jpg

12. UMD coach J.J. Ferreira prepping gymnastics for floor.. lens did well here
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v35/p673259320-4.jpg

13. UMD floor
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v39/p382683034-5.jpg

rgrds,
Mike



Feb 08, 2012 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #2 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Very nice, Mike. Colors are vivid and exposure is spot-on. I especially like #'s 2, 3, 5, 6 and 12. Thanks for sharing them, and congratulations on your new lens.


Feb 08, 2012 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #3 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Great job Mike. 2,4,5, and 10 for me. Your best gymnastics post to date, IMHO!


Feb 08, 2012 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #4 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Seems like an odd lens choice, however the results aren't what I expected from what could be a standard lens. I think 200MM for gymnastics when I think about them. Shame the seats are so empty it does take away some from the images.

The images however are very nice.



Feb 09, 2012 at 12:26 AM
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p.1 #5 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Very nice shots, I'd say the lens was the definitely right choice.

Bill



Feb 09, 2012 at 09:29 AM
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p.1 #6 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Looks nice, Im surprised how clean these are given the lens choice, I was flipping between a 70-200 and a 400 so I have to imagine these are cropped a bit also?, what did you do to them in post?


Feb 09, 2012 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #7 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Thanks guys!!

@Matt, thanks.. yes it does seem old choice, i was looking to supplement the 70-200f/2.8, something in 28-70->75. looked at the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8.. hmm a bit outa my budget this year.
found a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 XR ($450), found the focusing to be a bit too slow for what I wanted.
Saw the Nikon 35-70 f/2.8, read and read a bunch of good things on it, so I ordered once from KEH for $350 so far the lens is in perfect working/ physical condition.

@ishootsports3, thanks.. yup sorted and cropped in Photo Mechanic. for post I run them through Neat Image and then through a Photoshop action that adjust contrast, shadow and highlights and then sharpens them.

2 more this weekend
rgrds,
Mike



Feb 09, 2012 at 06:05 PM
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p.1 #8 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Matt OHarver wrote:
Shame the seats are so empty it does take away some from the images.


Yeah, I'm surprised, looks like a couple rows of parents down below and that's all. Really surprised nobody showed up for it. But contrarily I will say that in a certain sense it adds to the images since the gymnasts stand out easily against the empty seats, but with that much DOF, with people in the stands they'd probably blend into the fans a bit.



Feb 09, 2012 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #9 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


M-a-v...

Feedback in order of my memory as I type this, not necessarily in your picture order:

Really, Really, Great: (5) Your Shaposhnikova on bars... with the face, and caught midair with hands off, but still early enough to see the dust cloud off the low bar for a sense of movement, and much more importantly, to see the gymnast in an almost Pak Salto shape just before she breaks form to pike to reach for the high bar and drop her legs through. That's why, to capture this body shape, this move from this angle works better than an actual Pak from this angle. The Pak sucks from this angle because her eys are aiming toward the low bar, but the Shaposhnikova works great, because her eyes are aiming toward the high bar that she needs to grab next. You picked the right angle to shoot this, and you exposed and composed it well using the apparatus to frame the gymnast and tell the whole story. I'm jealous of this shot. Really great.

Great: (10) Your Gienger on bars, once again shot on the correct side to see the face. Just think, if you were on the the other side of the bars in flat profile, this would be nothing butt a back shot. So you know how to be at the right place at the right time. Since college gymnasts are specialists, you can predict she will do a Gienger every time she competes bars, so not only will you know to be on this side, but you can experiment with shifting your shooting position a bit more to the left toward the low bar next time she does it in order to get out of the flat profile, so she faces you more in mid release, and you pick up more of the apparatus in the left foreground of your frame. If shooting in an arena such as you were, then putting the suggested angle on this shot has the added benefit of throwing the background even further away from the athlete, as the bleachers in the radii of the elipse are further away (and less lit) than the bleachers at center court, so to speak. An angle also might diminish visual competition with the LED advertising panels one can't do much about.

Great: (11) Your double full on floor. What is it with you and you always being in the right place at the right time. Again, imagine if you were shooting from the crowd side of the floor when her tumbling double full twist was at full vertical, full straight, at full height such as you caught it? Nothing butt back. But you have her face. What is difficult to appreciate about this shot is that you nailed the focus DESPITE shooting into the crowd. That isn't so easy to do without doing some sort of trick, like zone focusing on the mat and locking out to manual (or releasing back button or whatever people do). Often times the mat isn't there. But whatever you did, you made it happen in a very challenging circumstance. Had you shot from the crowd side to avoid the clutter of heads, you wouldn't have this shot with the gymnasts face, as well as the contextual story of a bunch of people actually interested in the action taking place. Cool.


Great: (4) Front Aerial on beam. Really clear face, nice low angle, cleverly positioned the beam to block distracting heads from coaches and other gymnasts who were hanging around. Usually a lot of people on the competition floor in the shot aren't paying attention to the athlete you are shooting, so the presence of their heads looking this way and that is a distracting element that takes away focus from your subject. You solved that problem with your angle of attack. What is it with you and these great angle choices of yours? To freeze that foot in a fast whipping front aerial on beam, it takes at LEAST 1/800th. Some people like the motion blur, some don't.

Horrible: (7) Your other shots are so enviably great, it is a puzzle as to what you were thinking with #7. It pulls down, way down, what otherwise is a great set. No matter how "artistic looking" the port-de-bras in this image may appear, the fact remains that this event ain't some Twyla Tharp choreographed free form modern dance routine from a 1970's musical revival of Jesus Christ Superstar. And this athlete isnt a level 4 grade schooler stricken with acrophobia who is challenged to stay upright on a beam. This is collegiate level gymnastics. Most gymnasts I know, at ANY level, would be embarassed, if not outraged, to have what looks like a wobble on beam posted online, publically, for the world to see. It just isn't fair to that athlete. It is often said that to shoot a sport well, one should know the sport. In my opinion, #7 doesn't represent the sport very well at all. It would never run any of the gymnastics publications. I'd take it down right away. Can you tell how strongly I feel about that?

Anyways, all the compliments above still stand. Remove that wart of #7, and this set will be stronger.



Feb 10, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #10 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Hey, quit grokking with M-a-v and the gymnasts. Show off!

I agree completely about #7.

Larry

P.S. As for my own strategy and thought process.........me like bodysuit, me push button.




Feb 10, 2012 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #11 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Mike these are great looking shots with a nice mix. My favs are #2, 3, 4, 6, 8 and 12. I like #8 because it is different and I never saw that particular "pose" before.

I also agree with the others on #7...it isn't close to being on the same level as the others.

Look forward to your next post.

Frank



Feb 11, 2012 at 07:29 AM
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p.1 #12 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


@Focus Locus.. wow thanks for the feedback .. much appreciated .. you must shoot a bunch of gymnastics too
with #7 to tell you the truth i don't really know why I picked this for the set..

@Larry haha

@Frank, thanks .. a few more to come this season

speaking of #5 here's another shot of the same move from the side
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v38/p617165918-4.jpg

and the Pak Salto
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v44/p645657535-4.jpg

and the better angle of the Pak Salto
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v32/p762165217-4.jpg

oh I case anyone was wondering about the flare issues with this lens.. I didn't really have any, thou I think it can be used to an artistic advantage
http://mjlawler.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v32/p828820655-5.jpg

rgrds,
Mike



Feb 12, 2012 at 06:43 PM
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p.1 #13 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Holy Shaposhnikova, M-A-V!

Your encore post from the side is stunningly clear! Awesome!



Feb 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM
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p.1 #14 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


Mike,
This is a very nice set and I am sooo glad you posted the side angle shots of the bar routine. VERY NICE!!



Feb 14, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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p.1 #15 · Gymnastics: Maryland vs UNC vs Bowling Green State


I really enjoyed Part 2 as well Mike. Great captures! These shots certainly showcase the difficulties and dangers of the various release moves. As a parent, I find it much easier hiding behind my camera than watching my kids learn "dangerous" new skills. It's terrifying to watch directly, but not so bad in a tiny viewfinder.

Looking forward to the rest of your posts, Mike.

Focus Locus, your commentary is great! Keep it up. Many to most of us will appreciate the education.




Feb 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM





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