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 p.8 #2 · How many pixels do you want for 5D III | |
jorkata wrote:
Agree. Especially considering the rumors that the 5DIII will not have a high-MP count either.
One possibility is that Canon is planning to merge the 7D and 5D lines into the 5DX, which will be an 'affordable', general purpose FF camera with 18mp and 7fps.
And that later they are planning to also release the mythical "3D" - with 1-series features and 30+ megapixels.
a new rumor on northlight has the same idea:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d3.html
5DX 45 MP, 61pt simplified 1DX AF, 3.4fps
5D3 22MP, 61pt simplified 1DX AF, 6.9fps, best HD video of any EOS DSLR (the long fabled 3D)
both coming in at a bit over $3000
Neither is quite a 100% all rounder since the 5D3 lacks reach compared to stuff like a 50D/7D/1D4 but is otherwise there, so a 90% all rounder, and the 5D4 should truly be a does it all beast in 2014-2016. The 5DX is way too sluggish and probably will suffer from video moire and scaling issues for it to be an all rounder.
D800 is close to a true all rounder, certainly not at FF with 4fps but it also has 5fps 1.2x and, with grip, 6fps in DX mode, with the grip and DX mode option it has it might be argued that it is the best all around mix of everything although if you lean more towards raw speed then the 5D3 would take that title and perhaps the 5D3 video will be even better (interesting to see how the video filter works on the D800, maybe they found a cheap way to get moire-free, non-aliasied video without needing insane processing power, if not then the 5D3 should beat it for video, although then again if the D800 AA video filter lets it sample video at any scale from teh sensor it might do a nice zoomed in full 1920x1080p for wildlife that the 5D3 might not be able to do....).
This is probably tilting at windmills since it may be all made up nonsense most likely though. 
The 5DX has all the detail and reach I'd ever want but the fps and all is just too slow for me. Don't think I'd go for it.
The 5D3 is pretty awesome although I do wish it had 30-36MP reach and landscape detail at this late point in time. If they were willing to lower the profit margin just a hair they could've had dual digic 5+ and had it at 30MP and the same rest of the stats and simply crushed Nikon's D800 right back into the slimy dark hole it oozed up from . it is interesting to note that each generation Canon has had the tech available to make Nikon look silly and completely take over but prefers instead to stay even with Nikon in favor of making their next body upgrade look more enticing, although perhaps not so fast, since they need this to deliver top video and they might need to hit nearer to 39MP to scale video as nicely if they were to go higher and they probably don't have the tech to handle that just quite yet and it might add some real cost not just fake cost so it may be a fair trade to get truly stunning video now at the cost of waiting 2-3 more years for a bit more landscape detail and wildlife reach, although if the Nikon slide in AA for video works then maybe you could say they should have thought of that first. It all remains to be seen though.
The D800 in some ways is very, very intriguing you get you reach with speed in DX mode with the grip and a small, compact FF with a ton of detail for general shooting/landscapes, especially if their slide in video AA filter system works well. I guess it goes to $4000 with the grip, that is pricey and the 5D3 has the speed for $3000. a 5Dx+5D3 is $6000+ but you have two bodies, if you can afford that much.
Of the three the 5DX seems the least enticing to me, just too slow for too many things.
But these cams would appear to show that Canon is starting to step up to the plate more than in the past and I think it wouldn't really make even a hint of sense for all but a rather few to think of switching sides since the 5D4 and 5DX2 would surely be fantastic and arrive in just 2-3 more years and the 5D3 (or 5DX) seem pretty cool in the meantime, at worst, and if you don't need tons of reach or crazy landscape detail, even really stunning. Maybe the 5D3 is not quite as one cam does it all as the D800 if you are a bit more landscape/wildlife oriented than sports oriented although if you get just a bit more action sports (and perhaps video) oriented then the 5D3 would be the best all rounder now.
If true we pretty much have the long fabled 3D in the form of the 5D3 and the 5DX is basically the 1Ds4 provided without the bulk and insane price premium (although perhaps a few pros might be miffed by lesser build and weather sealing on it).
Anyway I think Canon would survive the D800 with those .
I also think I just wrote ten paragraphs based upon some specs some kid on Toldedo just sent in this morning.
i've said way too much about everything and will now lurk in the shadows for a while
Edited on Feb 09, 2012 at 04:53 PM · View previous versions
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