p.2 #2 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
user222 wrote:
At 24mm I agree. IS must be a huge selling point though. I imagine there may be a large segment of the population out there that thinks if the lens doesn't have IS it's just not a good lens.
Or maybe this is marketed more towards videographers?
one of the press releases did mention videographers
it is a cool lens, i jsut wonder why they didnt add a UD element or two and just go all out, but we will see, maybe the CA will be OK
Feb 07, 2012 at 02:01 AM
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p.2 #3 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
skibum5 wrote:
No, an f/2.8 24mm would not cost as much as an f/1.4 24mm.
They use UD element in the 55-250 IS I believe.
If you like to have the 55-250 IQ then it would be cheap But you wrote that you like to have the lens "deliver beyond off the chart results"
p.2 #4 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Lars Johnsson wrote:
If you like to have the 55-250 IQ then it would be cheap But you wrote that you like to have the lens "deliver beyond off the chart results"
i'm just saying that if lenses like that and so many tamrons and so on can use tiny UD elements that tiny UD elements do not cost that much extra to put in
Feb 07, 2012 at 02:34 AM
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p.2 #5 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
skibum5 wrote:
i'm just saying that if lenses like that and so many tamrons and so on can use tiny UD elements that tiny UD elements do not cost that much extra to put in
Do you really belive they can "toss in one or two UD elements for not much extra cost". And if doing that they will improve the IQ a lot. But they don't do it because they don't like their lenses to have good IQ
p.2 #6 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Do you really belive they can "toss in one or two UD elements for not much extra cost". And if doing that they will improve the IQ a lot. But they don't do it because they don't like their lenses to have good IQ
maybe:
1. marketing really is that penny pinching
2. they didn't want it to blow away the 24 1.4 II when stopped down and just getting close was cause for discomfort enough
3. or granted, who knows, maybe it will turn out that it would've made almost no difference at all and only removing the IS unit could have made a big difference
Feb 07, 2012 at 02:42 AM
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p.2 #7 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
In my opinion, Canon is redefining the meaning of "odd" with these releases. Ultra expensive stabilized primes... and unstabilized zoom which only yesterday was trumped by Tamron's announcement of stabilized equivalent.
p.2 #8 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Snopchenko wrote:
In my opinion, Canon is redefining the meaning of "odd" with these releases. Ultra expensive stabilized primes... and unstabilized zoom which only yesterday was trumped by Tamron's announcement of stabilized equivalent.
Do you really call prime lenses that cost $ 700-800 for Ultra Expensive? Then nearly every new prime is an Ultra Expensive lens
p.2 #9 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
skibum5 wrote:
To be honest, maybe, toss in a UD element and looking how the new 24-70 does, this new 24 2.8 with UD would deliver beyond off the chart results. So yeah I'd maybe have traded the IS for UD, that said the IS could be useful certainly.
And if the lens didn't have IS, I'm sure you would complain over that
p.2 #10 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
I very often found myself indoor, with low light and without tripod. I was considering the 24L, but the price was stopping me. My subjects are stationary, f/2.8 plus 3/4 stops IS could at least match f/1.4, since I don't need thin FOV. On top of that the lens will be cheaper and smaller.
I understand my requirements are kind of unusual, but I am looking forward to the new primes.
p.2 #11 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Tom K. wrote:
Man I hope they do this with the 50 f/1.4.
+ 1000
That one really needs an update.
Feb 07, 2012 at 04:39 AM
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p.2 #12 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Sven Jeppesen wrote:
Do you really call prime lenses that cost $ 700-800 for Ultra Expensive? Then nearly every new prime is an Ultra Expensive lens
For the specs they are. 24mm f/2.8 and 28mm f/2.8 is nothing special. Of course they'll be selling for less than the MSRP but it's still a large sum to pay for lenses that seem to have very limited appeal (say... does anybody who has a 2.8 zoom already need to bother with these?)
Feb 07, 2012 at 04:59 AM
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p.2 #13 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Snopchenko wrote:
For the specs they are. 24mm f/2.8 and 28mm f/2.8 is nothing special. Of course they'll be selling for less than the MSRP but it's still a large sum to pay for lenses that seem to have very limited appeal (say... does anybody who has a 2.8 zoom already need to bother with these?)
What other 24 & 28mm lenses with canon mount have better specs and lower price than these ? And they also have IS.
Saying that they are not good before you even have seen those lenses is a bit strange also
p.2 #16 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Peter, not so fast.
I said, not so fast!
Canon EF f/2.8 Compact Macro IS with zero distortion, zero CA and diffraction limited wide open.
Feb 07, 2012 at 07:40 AM
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p.2 #17 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
Lars Johnsson wrote:
What other 24 & 28mm lenses with canon mount have better specs and lower price than these ? And they also have IS.
Saying that they are not good before you even have seen those lenses is a bit strange also
I said above that I don't see the intended target group, At all. IS in this range, while nice and somewhat useful, doesn't seem mandatory like on the superteles. But there's no advantage in maximum aperture over any decent zoom (Sigma 24-70, Tamron 28-75/17-50, Canon 17-55/24-70/16-35), and the price is not radically lower than most of the high end zooms (probably the same or higher as 17-40/4, much more than the Tamrons) to have these lenses just for kicks or as a poor man's entry kit (as was argued against me in the case of the old 24 and 28 lenses). 24-28mm is a bread and butter range that pretty much anyone has covered already with good IQ. The 28IS costs more than the 28/1.8 which reportedly becomes pretty decent by f/2.8 and moreso at f/4. Most of all it's a weird choice of lens to release and a weird combination of stats that puzzles me.
Well, if any of the most recent announcements has any interest for me (short of switching to Nikon D800 which I certainly won't do) it's the Tamron 24-70. It rolls all three announced Canon into one for probably much less than the zoom and probably not much (if any) more than either prime.
P.S. Didn't say they were bad (for IQ or otherwise); how could I? Just seem really odd and redundant.
alundeb wrote:
Peter, not so fast.
I said, not so fast!
Canon EF f/2.8 Compact Macro IS
I believe a patent for a lens like this has been shown on one of the rumor sites. Might've been a Sigma tho.
p.2 #18 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
alundeb wrote:
Peter, not so fast.
I said, not so fast!
Canon EF f/2.8 Compact Macro IS with zero distortion, zero CA and diffraction limited wide open.
Sounds wonderful, Anders. They should be able to introduce that one at a bargain price of $799 only because the lens design will have been simplified by adding a plastic mount.
p.2 #19 · Canon 24 f/2.8 IS And 28 f/2.8 IS Announced
PetKal wrote:
Sounds wonderful, Anders. They should be able to introduce that one at a bargain price of $799 only because the lens design will have been simplified by adding a plastic mount.
The plastic mount sounds fine, easier to modify the lens to mount it on a Nikon D800E
Snopchenko: All Canon 28 mm offerings are decent stopped down, but none, I repeat none, is stellar, in the league of the 24 TSE II or the 35 L.
But you wrote that you like to have the lens "deliver beyond off the chart results"