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Archive 2012 · Canon AF troubles

  
 
Jim Quinn
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p.1 #1 · Canon AF troubles


Hi,

I posted this message on the Canon forum as well as here to get as much advice as possible. I hope this doesn't violate too many forum rules.

I gave a Canon 40D and a 580EXII flash a tough challenge yesterday, and it didn't do well.

There's a hummingbird feeder just outside my patio door; I'm in a warm place. I put the camera on a monopod, attached a 24-70 F:2.8 lens and a 580EXII flash with a DIY flash diffuser, and walked slowly toward the feeder until I was no more than 18 inches from it. I stood in position for a long time, and eventually enough curious and hungry birds started coming around. Before they arrived, I set the flash mode to manual and the power level to 1/4; I have found that the ETTL preflash spooks the birds.

By the time I got into position, the ambient light was pretty low, and I found that the camera's autofocus system was unable to focus on the birds when they hovered briefly above the feeder's plastic flower. Eventually I set the lens to manual focus and, using live view, set the focal point slightly behind the flower at a point where I guessed the birds might be in their hovering flight. I tried to focus manually on each bird, but they would hold positions only very briefly, and my results, although colorful, were not sharp, even with the lens set to F:11 to increase the depth of field. I realize that by being so close to my target, I multiplied my chances for focusing errors because the relative distances between the flash and the various focusing points were quite large.

Today, I remembered that Custom Function 8 on the 580EXII activates an AF-assist beam in low light. That feature is enabled on my two 580s, and I wondered why the beam wouldn't have helped me focus on the boards. I brought the camera fitted with a flash into a dark room and tried to see any evidence of that beam. I couldn't see it after several tests, though the photos looked pretty sharp.

I'm wondering if the AF-assist beam just wasn't working or whether there was anything I could have done with this camera and flash combination to produce more usable results. I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!



Jan 23, 2012 at 02:21 PM
Betacamman
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p.1 #2 · Canon AF troubles


If I recall correctly, the beam will not fire if the camera is in AI Servo focus, so make sure you weren't in that mode.

Also, that range may be too close for the beam to help even if it does fire -- it might go right over your target point at 18 inches.



Jan 23, 2012 at 02:29 PM
Jim Quinn
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p.1 #3 · Canon AF troubles


You're right; the camera was set to AI Servo. When I switched to One Shot, the beam worked. Of course the red light could spook the birds; I'll just have to check. I'll back up to about two feet and try again.


Jan 23, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Steve Wylie
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p.1 #4 · Canon AF troubles


I think if I were you, I'd back up a little, and give yourself a fighting chance. At 18 inches, your depth of field, even at f/11, isn't very much. Even if you have to crop to get the tight frame you want, it's better than missing the shot due to lack of focus. I would also go totally manual on both camera and flash exposure, including focus. That way, you're only variable is your composition ( which is driven by your timing). Of course, to do this, a tripod would be better than a monopod.


Jan 24, 2012 at 01:37 AM





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