dhphoto wrote:
Personally I couldn't ever go back to an old 8 meg sensor after using the new 18 meg ones, regardless of how good the body might be.
I thought I'd feel the same way, but I love the 1D2. I don't know that I could have it as my only camera though -- there are plenty of professional shots that require higher MP and color depth. But as a second, third, or fourth camera -- I find myself always reaching for this for personal work and testing.
I'm sure everyone knows the 1D2 and 1D2n are basically the same camera except for the LCD, right? That's not a small issue, but the original can be had in terrific shape for between $600 and $700 -- that was just too good for me to pass up.
I have a 1Ds2 (near 17MP in FF) and 60D (18MP in APS-C) for the higher MP, video, and more flexible approach. But the 1D2 is always a favorite to have in my hand.
I'm always amazed and surprised how sharp these 8MP images are!
dhphoto wrote:
Personally I couldn't ever go back to an old 8 meg sensor after using the new 18 meg ones, regardless of how good the body might be.
What are you shooting though, landscapes? That's the only think I could think of where 8MB might be a little limiting in certain situations. 8MB should be plenty for just about everything else unless of course you don't have the glass to fill your frame.
artsupreme wrote:
What are you shooting though, landscapes? That's the only think I could think of where 8MB might be a little limiting in certain situations. 8MB should be plenty for just about everything else unless of course you don't have the glass to fill your frame.
All sorts. Resolution is king. It allows me to crop, enlarge less, use higher ISO and all the other advantages.
I find the smaller files very limiting and now rather unnecessary when there are such good higher meg cameras available at lower prices. I'd buy a 7D ahead of a 1DII or 1DIII.
In other words, I didn't like my 1DIIN much. It just didn't suit me and what I do. Others feel different.
I will have to say, I have two of the bodies, and absolutely love them. Built solid and to last forever. The files are very clean and easy to work with. I routinely print 16x20's & 20x30's for the local high schools sports programs and haven't had any complaints.
I've been getting Lenmar batteries to replace my Canon's as they die off lately and haven't had a problem, they last for quite a while. I usually get about 1500 or more shots from a battery charge (using servo mode and IS).
Good luck, once you get that camera in hand, you'll buy it.
What *vince_ross* said. My IIn was my main sports camera for several seasons. Printed sports pics up to 24x36, parents and families loved them, resolution/up-rezzing never a problem even from cropped files.
But be careful. I bought a "low use" 1Ds II awhile ago that turned out to have 300,000 clicks and needed a new shutter, all undisclosed by the seller. Some 1-series bodies have seen serious use, but don't necessarily look it.
onegreatcity wrote:
I won't over complicate this; am I nuts? I'm a perfectly happy 7D owner but recently stumbled into a mint (under 10k shutter actuations) 1D MK2n. I've read the reviews here on FM and they're extremely positive. I'm purely a hobby shooter with a balance of family events, kid sports, floral and garden critters out in the yard with some occasional landscapes thrown in when I can find time. Is the MK2n overkill? At $950 (asking price) is this a good deal? And yes, I would have to sell my 7D to fund the 'new' body. Somebody talk me out of this please...
-Cam...Show more →
I shoot both a 7D and a 1DIIn, so I'm not trying to influence you either way, but you are considering two entirely different beasts here. The 7D is a nice up scale consumer camera. It's quick, light, has good AF, will shoot up to ISO 6400 (with noise) and has a "modern" user interface. Its IQ is "OK", I mean I can get good shots with it particularly in bad light, but it - in my opinion - isn't as fine as the 1DIIn.
With the IIn you are getting a pro camera. It is heavy, has an older interface, doesn't have the pixel count and is limited in high ISO. If I'm at ISO 800 even 1600, I'll take the 1DIIn every time. Better AF, quicker, better IQ. I got the 7D because I had to shoot action in very poor light situations and the 1DIIn just couldn't go there. I LIKE the pro-body. I've mastered the "tactile user interface" of the 1DIIn and can adjust settings on the fly far faster than the 7D where I have to look away from the view finder to make changes. I LIKE how it feels and the kinds of images it creates.
So it boils down to the following questions: (1) Are you trying to shoot things that go fast in the dark? (2) Does having the "real" tool in your hands do anything for you? (3) How do you feel about a heavier, bigger, more "awkward" camera body? Truthfully you can knock someone out if you smack them with any 1D series body
Me, I like the pro-bodies so much that I found a 1DIII and will be putting my 1DIIn up for sale and will also probably be unloading the 7D.
Truthfully, if you're willing to learn, the 1DIIn is one of the great cameras ever made.
Is the 1d2n AF the same as the 1Ds2? I have the 1Ds2 and there is very little between its AF performance and that of the 7D. Technically with the extra options the 7D AF is more fully featured. I still sold the 7D though
So what lens, there's no Exif so I'm going to guess, judging by the bokeh, the 1.3 crop and the DOF - 100 f2
All were from 1D2, f4.0 iso 400 - 135L - afternoon light reflected from carpet - actually, 1d2 files can handle very well in post just like 5Dc. Last one was an experiment of 15 tones curve layers from cs2, others were cropped & resized directly from capture one
Great information here you guys, thank you very much! I have heard from the seller and the story gets a bit more interesting (causing my Spidey send to tingle somewhat) but I intend to meet him this weekend regardless. For the record, he says he has used 2 different pieces of software (CanCount and Foxbat free 1D Count) to verify shutter activity.
Now, if the shutter had been replaced, would these types of software reveal that? I inquired if the body had ever been sent to Canon for repair and to his knowledge, it hasn't. I say 'to his knowledge' because he's not the original owner.
I have asked for a raw file to run the test myself and hope to see the camera tomorrow.
Thanks again...
-Cam
Call Canon and ask if it has had the shutter repaired if you are curious. They will probably tell you if you ask nicely.
I bought a higher milage 1D2n and it has been a champ.
IMO 1D2n's images are beautiful on the screen where 7D's show more noise at lower ISOs. OTOH, 7D is great for larger prints with loads of detail. I need to sell either my 7D or 1D2n soon and it's a TOUGH choice. My head says keep 7D, my heart adores the 1D2n.
I much perfer the files of the 1d2n to the 7d. The af on the 1d2n is amazing. I really like the 7d, excellent all-arounder;however, I am more impressed by the older 1d2n.
