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Archive 2012 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)

michael49
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p.1 #1 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


One more comparison.

5d vs 5N, both with C/Y 50 1.7 @ f/2, ISO 1600. Shot RAW, converted in LR3...

5d...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-7WX9SjK/0/L/i-7WX9SjK-L.jpg
5N...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-BrQ4p9m/0/L/i-BrQ4p9m-L.jpg

Crops...
5d...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-mnRCvWb/0/O/i-mnRCvWb.jpg
5N...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-4czvmSf/0/O/i-4czvmSf.jpg



Jan 05, 2012 at 08:31 PM
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p.1 #2 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


Crop of hair detail...

5d....
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-9rHgPP6/0/O/i-9rHgPP6.jpg
5N...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-x7FqhrG/0/O/i-x7FqhrG.jpg



Jan 05, 2012 at 08:36 PM
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p.1 #3 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


nice


Jan 05, 2012 at 08:47 PM
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p.1 #4 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


ISO 3200....

5d...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-Vhfh2RX/0/O/i-Vhfh2RX.jpg
5N...
http://brownphotography.smugmug.com/photos/i-nbFzwZv/0/O/i-nbFzwZv.jpg



Jan 05, 2012 at 08:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


crazeazn wrote:
nice


Thanks.



Jan 05, 2012 at 08:48 PM
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p.1 #6 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


i see no difference whatsoever at 1600, but the canon is clearly superior at 3200. That 100% crop on the 5D is very impressive.


Jan 05, 2012 at 08:59 PM
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p.1 #7 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


I like your comp shots, Michael.


Jan 05, 2012 at 09:01 PM
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p.1 #8 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


Not to belabor an oft-repeated point made in this forum, but you should compare them after re-sizing them to equivalent sizes.




Jan 05, 2012 at 09:04 PM
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p.1 #9 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


alwang wrote:
i see no difference whatsoever at 1600, but the canon is clearly superior at 3200. That 100% crop on the 5D is very impressive.


Its funny, when I look at the images in LR the 5d looks better at 1600, but when I posted the crops to Smugmug and posted them here they look nearly identical.

Its amazing what that damn 6 year old "obsolete" 5d is capable of.

mco_970 wrote:
I like your comp shots, Michael.

Thanks.



Jan 05, 2012 at 09:04 PM
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p.1 #10 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


Lotusm50 wrote:
Not to belabor an oft-repeated point made in this forum, but you should compare them after re-sizing them to equivalent sizes.


Good point. I was trying to avoid doing that for 2 reasons:

1. 12mp and 16mp are pretty close.
2. People always seem to argue about whether its "fairest" to upsize the smaller image or downsize the larger image.



Jan 05, 2012 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #11 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


michael49 wrote:
2. People always seem to argue about whether its "fairest" to upsize the smaller image or downsize the larger image.

It's easy to shut them up, do it both ways.

100% crop at:
Native resolution,
Smaller up rezed,
Larger down rezed.



Jan 05, 2012 at 10:24 PM
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p.1 #12 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


I clicked on this because the title said "5D (III)"




Jan 06, 2012 at 12:11 AM
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p.1 #13 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


^Ditto, lol


Jan 06, 2012 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #14 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


^Could be avoided by changing the (III) to "part 3".


The tonal gradations look better in the Canon crops, IMO. The 5N seems to have a poorer color palette, which can even be seen in the full images. White balancing (and exposure) doesn't look identical though, so this could be playing a role here.



Jan 06, 2012 at 04:32 AM
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p.1 #15 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


sirimiri wrote:
I clicked on this because the title said "5D (III)"



AhamB wrote:
^Could be avoided by changing the (III) to "part 3".
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Sorry.

AhamB wrote:
...The tonal gradations look better in the Canon crops, IMO. The 5N seems to have a poorer color palette, which can even be seen in the full images. White balancing (and exposure) doesn't look identical though, so this could be playing a role here.


The 5d has been known to produce brighter exposures for a given ISO, I think I read somewhere that ISO 800 on the 5d is more like ISO 1000 on most cameras. For the same exposure settings the 5d is always a little brighter.

The WB was adjusted for each in LR to be equal. That being said I usually prefer the 5d colors to the 5N, although I wouldn't say that I dislike the 5N colors.



Jan 06, 2012 at 08:23 AM
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p.1 #16 · NEX 5N vs 5D (III)


Its quite simple.

5D doesnt have NR smoothing in RAW, 5N does. Thats where all that fine detail disappears.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-5D#measuretabs-1

I will disappoint you, 5D ISO 800 actually isnt even ISO 800. Tho for today standarts its remarkably close to what it should be. But I guess that not many cameras will follow original 1Ds pattern (calibrated ISO so ISO 800 is really ISO 800).

5N has pretty high color accuracy in natural light, tho probably not that much in artificial. If you get correct WB, it should show.. Tho maybe it will just work better with ZA lens or Minolta ones.



Jan 06, 2012 at 09:13 AM





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