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Some people work on a deadline and NR isn't an option. Plus, I don't want to spend $1450 on a camera and have to run every image through LR and export. That takes forever. I was really looking forward to using a 7D, as they are $1150 refurbished at Canon w/ loyal discount, but Iborrowed one this week and was severely disappointed. Not sure what's with all the witty banter...
I think its pretty common knowledge the 7D is bad at high iso and the 5D2 is bad at AF tracking. This is why there has been so many people that...Show more →
It's not common knowledge that the 7D is as bad at noise, as the 5D is at AF. The 5D AF issues are related to it's crippled outter points. Not it's center point, which isn't half bad. The problem is, people don't want to spend a boatload of money on fast L primes, and then spend their hard earned money on their 5D2 which has a lot of pixels...only to use center point and crop away (since focus recompose isn't a good option with f/2 and faster).
The 7D's noise "issues" if you can call it that, are at low ISO, having more noise than it should...however, this isn't a mechnical fault (except for the people who have had a legit problem and had the sensor replaced). This is a direct result of the 7D have 18MP on a 1.6x crop sensor. The higher pixel density isn't it's friend here....sort of how the 5D2 at 100% pixels looks to have more noise than a 5D1 at 100% pixels.
It's an unfair comparison, because I think we all know that the 5D2 is much better than the 5D1.
On top of that, what planet do we compare a 21MP FULL FRAME camera to an 18 MP APS-C camera in the 100% crop department?
Now, I'm not picking on you, and I work on a deadline too (I'm a stringer for many publications around here, and a few combat sports websites, so I'm not just some keyboard warrior talking shit on you just to be a jerk). A lot of times, I'm finding myself in some crappy mc-donalds hoping their wifi works, so I can get my photos to the editor in time after an event that ran late. One of those, deadline is 10, but we want the main event photographed, and the main event started at 955, oh and the closest place with wifi is 10 minutes away).
On those jobs, I take my laptop with me, import into LR. You can have default settings applied. Say you know you're going to be shooting ISO 6400 and you know you're going to need 15 or whatever points of luminance smoothing, you can have it applied during import. Export them and upload them to the boss.
The people jumping to Nikon aren't comparing a 7D to a full frame camera either. They've been comparing it to the D7000...and it's funny, because they are finding out, that while it's a fantastic camera for the money...it ain't all it's cracked up to be either. Sort of the hype got in the way of the camera.
We all know that the 7D is going to have more noise than a 5D2. We also all know that the 7D is generally going to a different event than the 5D2 (even though both cameras are sort of set up for the same market. Say you already own a 5D2, but you want a capable sports camera. Now you can pick up a 7D, have your extra batteries work with you 7D, and not have to spend a fortune on a 1D series camera. You get FF goodness, APS-C crop/reach, high ISO capabilities that are respectable on the 7D and great on the 5D2, and a backup camera, all without spending a fortune on a 1D).
You can take my comments anyway you want. It's not witty banter. It's from someoen with a lot of experience with the camera. Compared to Canon's other crop offerings, what are we going to get? 7D beats 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D in high ISO, and it has for "most" better features than the rebel and 60D which share the sensor.
It's the best answer in the Canon line up for someoen who wants sports capable AF, without buying a 1D.
I'm posting three photos. ISO 200, 3200 and 6400. Just a snap of a baby at ISO 200 with on camera flash. The only reason it's posted is to show that it's a clean file, even though the 7D doesn't have a good reputation for low ISO work.
The 3200 and 6400 were at different events. The 6400 was pushed 1 stop in post (LR just moved exposure up +1.00) and given +15 on the Lum slider. The 3200 was given just 5 points, but it was not pushed in post processing.
I find that for noise with any camera, and sharpness with any lens, has a lot to do with what you're shooting, the distance your shooting to/from, and the quality of light. I find that the 7D is much better when I get the exposure close in high ISO end on the SHADOWS. the highlights, I can miss by as much as 1-2 stops, but in the shadows, it tends to fall apart if you underexpose.
LR Lum Smooth +5
Canon EOS 7D EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM lens 70mm f/2.8 1/500s 3200 ISO 0.0 EV
Just an ISO 200 snap shot with a 580 on camera. Pretty clean.
Canon EOS 7D EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens 168mm f/2.8 1/50s 200 ISO 0.0 EV
ISO 6400 pushed 1 stop in post. LR Lum Smooth +15 Slight motion blur from slow shutter speed.
Canon EOS 7D EF24-70mm f/2.8L USM lens 30mm f/2.8 1/400s 6400 ISO 0.0 EV