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Archive 2011 · Too warm? Too soft?

  
 
Nijay
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p.1 #1 · Too warm? Too soft?


I can't decide if this is too warm, or just right? And also if I should up the sharpening on it? I've been prone to way over-sharpening in the past so I'm trying to err towards soft now but did I over (under) do it? Any other pointers?

D7k with 180mm ED AIS. I'm not sure I can get better manual focus on a 11 month old walker (usually I use the Siggy 85mm but it was inside the house).




Oct 01, 2011 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #2 · Too warm? Too soft?


Too warm (perhaps and/or too yellow) on my display. If you can selectively sharpen her hair and dress, then sharpen. If you can sharpen her eyes selectively, perhaps. I suggest if you only sharpen the entire image, only sharpen a little if you intend to print it large.


Oct 01, 2011 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · Too warm? Too soft?


same impression on my calibrated monitor
Scott



Oct 01, 2011 at 03:52 PM
Nijay
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p.1 #4 · Too warm? Too soft?


Am I at least close temp wise or is this way too warm?

I'm going to go spend some time masking and get her hair sharper. I did selectively sharpen her eyes and brighten the whites of her eyes. Too little?



Oct 01, 2011 at 08:14 PM
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p.1 #5 · Too warm? Too soft?


Did you shoot raw? If not, have you edited the jpeg? If so, what does the jpeg look like straight out of the camera?


Oct 01, 2011 at 08:26 PM
Nijay
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p.1 #6 · Too warm? Too soft?


I shot raw. Pushed the yellows and greens b/c everything is dead here. I'll probably go in try to cool down the temp to compensate for the aggressive yellow/green tuning.


Oct 01, 2011 at 08:50 PM
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p.1 #7 · Too warm? Too soft?


Did some more work on it... Sharpened hair, sharpened dress, made it cooler (used her hair as a gauge this time to determine the right temp). Better? Thoughts?




Oct 02, 2011 at 11:40 AM
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p.1 #8 · Too warm? Too soft?


Better color balance the second try, but perhaps it would benefit from a vibrance bump.


Oct 02, 2011 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #9 · Too warm? Too soft?


No, not too soft or too warm, the subject IS soft and warm!

BUT the subject is exactly what you seem to have forgotten here.

On the first image it seems to me that you have your philosophy the wrong way round.
You've put your attention on the background by boosting the yellows and greens, this leaves the child looking flat and lost.
The background should be exactly that, background.
It's put to the back, it's there to give pop and depth to a 2 dimensional image,
To achieve this we try and put it out of focus, check! we might desaturate it a touch, Ooops! and if we were getting really technical we might shift it slightly to the blue side as it gets further away.(If it's good enough for landscape painters, it's good enough to me!)
All this done, we now need to bring forward the subject: A demo is easiest I guess.



I hope you can follow the PS layers and masks, I've labelled them to say what they do.
I have of course overexagerated to make a point, it's up to you to season to taste, YMMV...
Any questions or comments please ask.
Hope this helps,

Silver.



Oct 05, 2011 at 07:18 AM
Nijay
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p.1 #10 · Too warm? Too soft?


Thanks for the PS screenshot and comments, Silver.

When you applied the gradient mask to the bottom of the image that faded as you went to the top, followed up by the desaturation, was her face not desaturated as well since its in the top 1/3 of the image? Or did the hue increase help bring that back?



Oct 05, 2011 at 10:14 AM
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p.1 #11 · Too warm? Too soft?


The girl we see is on a layer above that: "girl adjustment", with the increased saturation and contrast only applied to her.
If we turned off that layer, yes, we would see a desaturated girl.

Silver



Oct 05, 2011 at 11:43 AM





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