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p.7 #1 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

nixland wrote:
Hi, I need to ask about FD 85 and FD 55 asph/50L :

1. I was told by FM member that the FD 85/1.2 SSC Aspherical bokeh is a bit smoother than the FD 85/1.2L. Anybody has the same experience?

As far as I am aware the FD 85mm f1.2 L is optically identical to the FD 85mm f1.2 SSC Aspherical so their sharpness, contrast and bokeh quality should be identical too...However I cant be 100% sure about this as I still have'nt been able to find an optical diagram for the SSC Aspherical to compare with the one I have for the FD-L.
They certainly differ mechanically though...The SSC Aspherical has more metal used in its construction than the FD-L, so the FD-L is'nt so heavy (FD-L= 680g vs 756g for the SSC Asp)...The EF-L mk1 and MkII are identical optically but they are completely different optically to the FD versions, and much heavier (1025g!)
It would be a great help if someone here could supply an optical diagram for the SSC Aspherical so we can compare it to the FD-L.

nixland wrote:
2. How the 55/1.2 SSC Asph compared to the FD 50/1.2L in sharpness, color-contras, and bokeh?
My FD 55/1.2 SSC non Asph bokeh is a bit harsh (as I have posted the example on the previous page), so I think the 55 Asph will be the same. How about the FD 50/1.2L ?

They are not the same...The incorporating of the Aspherical element into the 55mm f1.2 Asph' design is enough to change the entire performance characteristics of the said lens in comparison to the older non Aspherical version. BTW, the FD 55mm f1.2 SSC is optically indentical to the older FL 55mm f1.2, except perhaps for an additional coating ot two on the former.

Dec 17, 2011 at 09:44 PM

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p.7 #2 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Alf the only differences I'm aware of are the 9 bladed aperture on the 85/1.2 SSC vs 8 on the FDL, and the aspherical element is hand ground (no Monday lenses please). Don't know much about the 55 Asph. other than it's expensive.

The FL 35/2.5 was mentioned above and I've been using that one frequently. It is remarkably good at least at F8 here.

The downside is significant flare though I tweaked this to exaggerate it. Left hand makes a pretty good hood in most situations.

35/2.5 Flare

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Dec 17, 2011 at 11:02 PM

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p.7 #3 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

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nixland wrote:
Hi, I need to ask about FD 85 and FD 55 asph/50L :

1. I was told by FM member that the FD 85/1.2 SSC Aspherical bokeh is a bit smoother than the FD 85/1.2L. Anybody has the same experience?

As far as I am aware the FD 85mm f1.2 L is optically identical to the FD 85mm f1.2 SSC Aspherical so their sharpness, contrast and bokeh quality should be identical too...However I cant be 100% sure about this as I still have'nt been able to find an optical diagram for the SSC Aspherical to compare with the one I have for the FD-L.
They certainly differ mechanically though...The SSC Aspherical has more metal used in its construction than the FD-L, so the FD-L is'nt so heavy (FD-L= 680g vs 756g for the SSC Asp)...The EF-L mk1 and MkII are identical optically but they are completely different optically to the FD versions, and much heavier (1025g!)
It would be a great help if someone here could supply an optical diagram for the SSC Aspherical so we can compare it to the FD-L.

nixland wrote:
2. How the 55/1.2 SSC Asph compared to the FD 50/1.2L in sharpness, color-contras, and bokeh?
My FD 55/1.2 SSC non Asph bokeh is a bit harsh (as I have posted the example on the previous page), so I think the 55 Asph will be the same. How about the FD 50/1.2L ?

They are not the same...The incorporating of the Aspherical element into the 55mm f1.2 Asph' design is enough to change the entire performance characteristics of the said lens in comparison to the older non Aspherical version. BTW, the FD 55mm f1.2 SSC is optically indentical to the older FL 55mm f1.2, except perhaps for an additional coating ot two on the former.

Thanks a lot for the reply, Alf.

While I am still curious about the 85 SSC vs FD L differences, I decided to get the FD L considering the weight, cause I want to make it as one of my traveling lens. (My EF 85/1.2 II is too bulky and heavy). But I am still waiting for SSC vs FD L comparison

Days ago an FD 55/1.2 Aspherical auction also showed up on eBay, so that's why I want to know more about this lens. But the current bid price is already over my limit.

Dec 18, 2011 at 12:42 AM

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p.7 #4 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

inglis wrote:
Edd,
Nice, is it cropped down and if so how much?
I am just wondering how far one can crop bird photos with a lens like this.

Hi,

Here are both (full & crop) so you can compare.

Edd

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Dec 18, 2011 at 01:33 AM

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p.7 #5 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

FL55 f1.2 on NEX5N

Aperture probably f5.6

Taken in quite poor light and handheld.

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Passionfruit flower

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Dec 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM

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p.7 #6 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Thatspeck wrote:
...The FL 35/2.5 was mentioned above and I've been using that one frequently. It is remarkably good at least at F8 here;

I'm very pleased to hear this info Thatspeck and to see this lovely image, because I picked up my copy for A$30 and it's now with Pengland for conversion to EF.

Dec 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM

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p.7 #7 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Yes, it's a real bargain as are many of the FL's. Note the flare issue though that I updated/posted on the previous page. This one (below) may be wide open if not very close.

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Dec 18, 2011 at 02:09 PM

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p.7 #8 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Thatspeck wrote:
Alf the only differences I'm aware of are the 9 bladed aperture on the 85/1.2 SSC vs 8 on the FDL, and the aspherical element is hand ground (no Monday lenses please). .

Blimey!, they could'nt have made that many of them compared to the FD-L then?

Thatspeck wrote:
Don't know much about the 55 Asph. other than it's expensive.

The FL 35/2.5 was mentioned above and I've been using that one frequently. It is remarkably good at least at F8 here..

Looks good, very nice colours too, but how is it at wider apertures?

Thatspeck wrote:
The downside is significant flare though I tweaked this to exaggerate it. Left hand makes a pretty good hood in most situations.

I use a hood at all times on all my lenses, so that would'nt be an issue for me

Dec 18, 2011 at 05:05 PM

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p.7 #9 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

canon FL 55/1.2:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

a larger version of the pano can be found in the pano-mania thread.

Dec 18, 2011 at 05:27 PM

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p.7 #10 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

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Dec 18, 2011 at 09:11 PM

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p.7 #11 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Sebboh,
That pano stretch of color and shape is really so expansive! Really captures perspective and form.

Dec 18, 2011 at 10:29 PM

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p.7 #12 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Alf I'm generally more of a landscape shooter and the lens is new to me but that shot just above is probably wide open, it's a pretty modest max aperture and fairly small lens, well worth the sub $100 price tag they generally sell for. I think there is also an FL 35/3.5.

Sebboh if that is the non aspherical 55, I'd say there is no need to get one, very nice

Dec 19, 2011 at 12:57 AM

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p.7 #13 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

inglis wrote:
Sebboh,
That pano stretch of color and shape is really so expansive! Really captures perspective and form.

thanks!

Thatspeck wrote:
Sebboh if that is the non aspherical 55, I'd say there is no need to get one, very nice

thanks, it is indeed. i've never seen or heard anything about the aspherical version that makes me think i need to upgrade.

Dec 19, 2011 at 02:52 AM

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p.7 #14 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Summertime here in Australia and the orchid is blooming

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FL55 f1.2 lens @ f8
Canon EOS-1D Mark III f/0.0 1/125 sec 100 ISO 0.0 EV

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same lens
Canon EOS-1D Mark III f/0.0 1/125 sec 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Dec 24, 2011 at 10:55 AM

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p.7 #15 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Monochrome Turtle by Ilya Faynshteyn (Blazingengine) Photography, on Flickr
Vivitar 80-200 f4 FD mount on Canon AE1, Kodak Tri-X 400 film

Dec 25, 2011 at 07:20 AM

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Dec 30, 2011 at 09:32 AM

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p.7 #17 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Those are fun images, Lenticular.

Good for a morning smile.

Dec 30, 2011 at 02:22 PM

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p.7 #18 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

Loving this post.... Love all the FD/FL pics...

Dec 30, 2011 at 04:31 PM

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p.7 #19 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

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canon FL 55/1.2:

I don't know what possessed me to look into this thread, since I am not a Canon fan in the least (except for the TS-E 17), but that first shot is awesome.

Dec 30, 2011 at 08:41 PM

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p.7 #20 · Canon FL/FD Images Thread

carstenw wrote:
sebboh wrote:
canon FL 55/1.2:

I don't know what possessed me to look into this thread, since I am not a Canon fan in the least (except for the TS-E 17), but that first shot is awesome.

thanks! sepia cypresses, what's not to like.

i'm not much of a canon man myself (mostly due to a dislike of the color i get from the lenses), but the FL 55/1.2 is an incredibly strong performer across the board (except for color of course).

Dec 30, 2011 at 10:16 PM


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