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DennisC
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p.1 #1 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Is it me or are PW's instructions for their Flex products somewhat cryptic?

Anyhoo, I want to try to use the following set up to flash night football and wonder if it will work or if anyone else has tried it.

SB800 is on a FlexTT5, which is on an SB28, which is on a bracket and the other end of the SB28 is in the camera body hot shoe.

Custom setting e1 is 1/250 s (Auto FP) and the flash is set to standard iTTL.

Using the PW Utility, I set HSS/FP begins at 1/500.

Taking my picture: SS 1/500, and whatever aperture/ISO.

Am I thinking about this correctly?

Thanks for reading.



Sep 23, 2011 at 08:06 AM
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p.1 #2 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Hello Dennis,

What you have set up is no different than having the Flex directly on the camera hot shoe, so it should work just fine. I assume you are trying to achieve is a little faster SS using the PW hypersync feature. What firmware version are you using in the Flex? What camera body are you using?

I have played with the hypersync feature in iTTL and could not gain any benefit over the 1/320 SS factory default when leaving the flash in iTTL. It is my belief the flash needs to firing at 100% before you will see any gains. In other words, the feature is using the light tail from the 100% pop. In iTTL, the IGBT might shutdown the flash if full power is not needed.

Let is know how it works,
Richard K



Sep 23, 2011 at 08:28 AM
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p.1 #3 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Richard

Thanks for stopping by!

I'm using a D700 and have the latest PW firmware installed, and that, as I understand it, automatically sets the timing for Hypersync operation.

Yup, still rasslin' with night football and I'd love to get 1/400 or 1/500 with full flash, like I can with my D70s I've never been able to get the "2 stops under ambient" recipe to work in a manner where I like the images.

Thanks for sharing your experience - no better than plain ol' AutoFP at 1/320, eh?

I wonder if setting the flash on MASTER might yield different results?



Sep 23, 2011 at 08:47 AM
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p.1 #4 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Dennis,

I see you put this in two places. According to the PW wiki you will still need a transmitting radio in the camera hot shoe. There was some talk about PW making changes that would allow a single radio to do the hypersync, but I didn't see that in the ver 3 release notes, but I will try it today. If that's true, your setup should work. I just don't believe it will work well in iTTL. You need the light tail of a full power pop to see the benefit.

If you set the flash to Master, the PW radios will not work correctly.

Sorry for the two different answers,
Richard K.



Sep 23, 2011 at 09:02 AM
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p.1 #5 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


mill4570 wrote:
...you will still need a transmitting radio in the camera hot shoe.


Ok, that's what I was wondering.

Thanks again, Richard!

(I'll see if I can delete the other post and just go with this thread)



Sep 23, 2011 at 09:07 AM
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p.1 #6 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


On my 5d, I couldn't get more than 1/250. With 1/320 I would get some small black bar. On my 1dmk2, I could do clean 1/500 with some very small bar at 1/640. This is with Hypersnync alone.


Sep 23, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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p.1 #7 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Thanks, Bobby.

Are you shooting night sports, also?



Sep 23, 2011 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #8 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


Dennis

On another note, the D70s has an electronic shutter because of its CCD sensor. You can easily shoot past 1/500th shutter with flashes, so long as the camera doesn't recognize the flash. I just used regular pocket wizards, and easily shot at 1/1000th on a D40 (similar CCD sensor). After further tests, I was able to get 1/1250th consistently, and 1/1600th with a few blackouts.



Sep 27, 2011 at 01:38 PM
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p.1 #9 · PW FlexTT5 for night football


DennisC wrote:
Thanks, Bobby.

Are you shooting night sports, also?


yes, football but I sold my mini/flex setup so plus IIs only now.



Sep 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM





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