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Mr. Mohaupt
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · superwide on college budget


Well sort of college budget, i want something in the 15mm to 20mm range for my D30 (also for my A2 because i love the really wide range). I was looking at quite a bit of lenses and was hopeing to get some info on any of these

Tokina 17 3.5 ATX pro
Canon 20-35 3.5-4.5
Sigma 20 1.8
Tamron 20-35 3.5-4.5


i really like canons zoom and plus it has USM but i read on the reviews not too many people were happy with it... Any suggestions would help, i have up to 400 to play with and want a "super" wide angle for my digi...

Thanks in advance,
Mike



Jun 14, 2004 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · superwide on college budget


The 17-40 f/4L? Who was not happy with that one? That lens is amazing, and many have argued that it is a better performer than the 16-35 f/2.8L, which is several hundred dollars more expensive.

You can also consider the 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX from Sigma. That's a great lens and very wide. These would cost a little more ($600-$700 for either) but you would be happier with the wide. The wides on your list above really are not all that wide on a D30.

Arka C.



Jun 14, 2004 at 11:55 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · superwide on college budget


Then there is also the Sigma 15-30, which is wider than the ones you have listed... Very happy with mine...

I guess it depends exactly on your definition of "college budget"



Jun 15, 2004 at 12:02 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · superwide on college budget


Modified 18-55 EF-S?


Jun 15, 2004 at 12:03 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · superwide on college budget


The Sigma 12-24mm easily satisfies most wide-angle needs. 12mm on a 1.6x sensor is still not "ultra-wide" by 35mm standards, but the distortion level shown by the Sigma (0.22% at 12mm) is remarkably low, in fact lower than any other ultra-wide I know of - suitable for architectural photography. Edge sharpness is decent when stopped down; you'd be hard-pressed to find an ultra-wide that doesn't go a bit soft towards the edges.

Canon's 17-40mm, which I also own, is an excellent alternative...but I use the Sigma much more often because the thrill of wide-angle photography, to me, is the ability to go ultra-wide.



Jun 15, 2004 at 12:13 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · superwide on college budget


my budget is about $400 :o( i dont need an ultra wide for my digital if its around 28-30 i would be happy!) thats the reason for singling out some lenses. I was offered the older sigma 17-35 2.8->4 for cheap but after reading so many unhappy reviews im not sure if i should.




Jun 15, 2004 at 12:19 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · superwide on college budget


I guess the 3 questions to ask are 1) what's your budget (OK, $400ish), 2) how wide do you want to go and 3) how fast does it have to be? I own both a Sigma 20/1.8 and 15/2.8 fish. I like both of them a great deal. The fish is much wider than the 20 but the 20's a bit faster and also rectilinear which means not having to account for or correct distortion. Both the fish and 20 can be had for around $300 as can the Tokina 17/3.5, I think (I found my copy of the Sigma 20 used for $250). All 3 are well within your budget. A good user's review of the Tokina can be found here:

http://www.seittipaja.fi/data/Pontification/b_Photography/d_Tokina_AT-X_17mm/a_Tokina_AT-X_17_mm.html

Also, as Geir has pointed out, the Sigma 15-30 is optically a very good, wide lens and can be found used for around $450.

Cheers!



Jun 15, 2004 at 12:20 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · superwide on college budget


Mr. Mohaupt wrote:
my budget is about $400 :o( i dont need an ultra wide for my digital if its around 28-30 i would be happy!) thats the reason for singling out some lenses. I was offered the older sigma 17-35 2.8->4 for cheap but after reading so many unhappy reviews im not sure if i should.



I'd go with the Sigma 20/1.8 then - stopped down it's as bright as the zooms are wide-open, and sharper.



Jun 15, 2004 at 12:30 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · superwide on college budget


Have you seen reviews of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye? It's MF, but you do get a very nice 20-22mm wide view after correction to rectilinear. Zero AF-lag - just put to hyperfocal distance, f/16 and shoot I love mine very much..


Jun 15, 2004 at 03:20 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · superwide on college budget


I'll second the Zenitar suggestion. Very sharp and the 16mm gives you some wicked effects!


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · superwide on college budget


I second the Sigma 15-30, great lens in most situations.


Jun 15, 2004 at 04:20 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · superwide on college budget


The Tamron 19-35 lens (your post said 20-35) is an awesome lens for the sub $200 price. If you had $50 more bucks I'd go for the Tamron 17-35 f2.8 DI, but since your in college save the money and get the cheaper lens.



Jun 15, 2004 at 12:16 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · superwide on college budget


Give serious consideration to the Sigma 15mm f/2.8 rectangular fisheye. The Canon version is my second or third favorite lens -- I use it a LOT more than my 16-35, for example.

http://www.toulme.net/sports/woodward/soccer/vboys2004/051404_dalton/1d2-05851_std.jpg


Do a search on "fish" on this and the other usual suspect forums and you'll get lots of encouragement for this suggestion.

Nill
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Jun 15, 2004 at 01:10 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · superwide on college budget


I will put up another vote for the Tamron 17-35 2.8-4 Di, just got one and i love it. Great lens for $480, an even though it is out of your budget it should be concidered.


Jun 15, 2004 at 04:05 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · superwide on college budget


wow thanks everyone
davekone, i think your post was one of the first to to really consider my college budget lol on another forum some was like "just save up for canons L series".... good idea but who can wait?

Nill Toulme thank you so much for the example i love it.

i had someone offer me tamrons 19-35 and think it will be my final choice in the end.

Thanks all for your help!



Jun 15, 2004 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · superwide on college budget


KEH has 2 used Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4 lenses right now. I'd get one, but my college budget isn't as big as yours yet =)


Jun 15, 2004 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · superwide on college budget


http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/102743#832452

$135 dollars



Jun 15, 2004 at 05:55 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · superwide on college budget


I recently purchased a 20-35 f/3.5-4.5 from an FM member. I read a number of reviewed and played with a few lenses, and I thought this review raised some good points:

http://bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/canwide.html



Jun 15, 2004 at 06:33 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · superwide on college budget


All the wide angle shots of ruins were taken with the Tamron 19-35
You can look at the EXIF data, anything in teh 19-35 range was the Tamron, I only had the 19-35 and 70-200 at the time!

http://www.pbase.com/davekone/belize



Jun 15, 2004 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · superwide on college budget


For your needs, go with the sigma 15-30 or tokina 17mm prime. These two lenses are sharp (as far as wide angles go) and there is no issue with vignetting on a 1.6x crop factor sensor. The tokina does have some CA at the edges. mark


Jun 15, 2004 at 07:05 PM
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