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p.1 #1 · Proper reflector usage


Was looking for some advice on reflector usage. I currently own both a 30" round 5-in-1 reflector, as well as a Lastolite 33" Tri-Flip. I've had good success with them when used in a studio setting to direct strobe light, however while I've had some success using them outdoors, I feel like I'm missing something. The problem I'm having is that when used to provide fill back into a subject face, the reflected light seems to invariably cause squinting which is one of the things I'm trying to avoid in the first place by getting the subject out of direct sunlight (among others obviously).

Was hoping to hear tips that others have found helpful when using reflectors outdoors.



Aug 31, 2011 at 02:28 PM
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p.1 #2 · Proper reflector usage


Don't use silver unless if it's cloudy outside.


Aug 31, 2011 at 02:59 PM
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p.1 #3 · Proper reflector usage


It's a bit like asking the best way to pound a nail with screwdriver. The answer is use a hammer instead.

The reason a backlight scenario is used vs. sun as key light is the squinting problem — it's difficult to get light into the eyes without blinding the subject. There's no good way I know around the same problem with a reflector so all things considered its better to use flash unless you have a phalanx of assistants to hoist and hold down scrims to diffuse the sunlight.



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Aug 31, 2011 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #4 · Proper reflector usage


What does any of that have to do with using a reflector?


Aug 31, 2011 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #5 · Proper reflector usage


alohadave wrote:
What does any of that have to do with using a reflector?

Nothing.

Eric was right. Don't use silver unless it's cloudy. Not only does it cause squinting, but it also tends to overfill and look fakey, kind of like bad flash fill.

I like large white reflectors used close to the subject. Time of day also has an effect, I prefer to shoot during the golden hour. Light level is down a little and easier on the subject.



Aug 31, 2011 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #6 · Proper reflector usage


alohadave wrote:
What does any of that have to do with using a reflector?


Nothing, It's standard copy and paste in the lighting forum.

In my opinion a reflector that has diffusion fabric on it instead of white or reflective is the ultimate. It reflects enough to be used for bounce and the diffusion works well for other occasions.
like this one http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/358614-REG/Impact_R1342_Reflector_Disc_White.html

Here's an example of when diffusing the light worked out much better than bouncing light and trying to fill in the shadows.
http://www.eric-schwab.com/lauraedits/content/bin/images/large/_3300434002.jpg



Sep 01, 2011 at 07:28 AM
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p.1 #7 · Proper reflector usage


Eric Schwab wrote:
Here's an example of when diffusing the light worked out much better than bouncing light and trying to fill in the shadows.

Lovely photo of a lovely girl Eric. I'm a sucker for Titian haired lasses.

Nothing beats the natural look of carefully chosen available light with a tasteful use of reflectors.



Sep 01, 2011 at 08:16 AM
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p.1 #8 · Proper reflector usage


My 2 cents; do not reflect directly onto the subject - used the feathered edge. In other words aim off to the side. The light is much less harsh and you avoid all those shadows going the wrong way. Also - IMHO I would add to the "avoid silver except on cloudy days" - "avoid gold 'warming' reflectors except on cloudy days" - unless it is the type with fine zigzag gold strips in a field of white. Straight gold is too much especially on a sunny day at the golden hour.


Sep 01, 2011 at 02:09 PM
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p.1 #9 · Proper reflector usage


Thanks for the suggestions, I agree with the comments on using diffusion instead of reflection when possible. I'll try sticking with the white side and see if that doesn't help things.

Eric - Great example image.




Sep 01, 2011 at 06:13 PM
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p.1 #10 · Proper reflector usage


Another variaty, in cases where white isn't reflecting enough power or you feel it hasn't enough oomph, is to cover a silver with a thin diffusion silk / veil. Takes off the harshness.


Sep 02, 2011 at 05:14 AM
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p.1 #11 · Proper reflector usage


Good thread guy's, thanks to OP and responders.


Sep 02, 2011 at 07:02 AM
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p.1 #12 · Proper reflector usage


So, on the photo, the diffusion reflector was used to shade the model or to provide fill?

If it was used to provide fill, where was the reflector placed?
GREAT PHOTO, by the way!



Sep 03, 2011 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #13 · Proper reflector usage


The diffusion reflector was used to shade the model. It brings the whole exposure on her down which means any things else that would normally be shadowed now gets enough fill from the sky and surrounding buildings bouncing back light.


Sep 14, 2011 at 11:59 AM
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p.1 #14 · Proper reflector usage


Just put the subject into the shade and white reflector into the sun. Because a white reflects in many directions, you don't even need to aim it. It will brighten the face and add a catch light in the eyes.

If the subject is in the sun, then use a shiny reflector (I like soft-gold or zebra) to the side 45% or greater and feather it into the subject.
Here is one of mine in bright sun using a zebra to mitigate the racoon eye effect.
Notice the hair shadow and catchlight showing that it is really at 45%+.

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Oct 23, 2011 at 02:31 PM
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p.1 #15 · Proper reflector usage


You can tell by the shadow on her hands that the sun is directly over head.
I also use a face brightening technique in PS, where you draw an oval around the face and brighten just that area a little. Then a smaller oval in the middle of the face to brighten that just a little more.



Oct 23, 2011 at 02:33 PM
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p.1 #16 · Proper reflector usage


One trick popular in film/TV is to get the subject to look at the reflector with their eyes closed and then open their eyes just before the shot.

Sounds crazy, but can really work for some people.




Oct 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM





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