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Archive 2008 · Lighting and under-eye makeup

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


I've noticed that, even with diffused lighting (large reflective umbrella or 3'x3' softbox closeby) I see a noticeable shine (not pleasing) under the eyes due to concealer makeup.

I typically set the key light at 45/45 angles with maybe one main fill light straight away (above the camera).

How do you guys deal with makeup looking too shiny in portraits? How do I achieve that smooth look (either through lighting or makeup tip)


thanks!



Jul 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM
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p.1 #2 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


Makeup is supposed to help reduced shiny glossy spots on the skin. I'm no makeup artist but whenever something is shiny, the makeup artist is able to fix it for me. I thought that's what foundation was for.


Jul 28, 2008 at 01:22 PM
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p.1 #3 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


I believe that this has to do with the type of conceiler that is used.
It is my understanding that some of them have sunscreen in them that reflects UV and causes a specular reflection into the camera lens.
Try a "camera ready" conceiler instead.
Robin



Jul 28, 2008 at 01:42 PM
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p.1 #4 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


abrocketsfan wrote:
I've noticed that, even with diffused lighting (large reflective umbrella or 3'x3' softbox closeby) I see a noticeable shine (not pleasing) under the eyes due to concealer makeup.

I typically set the key light at 45/45 angles with maybe one main fill light straight away (above the camera).

How do you guys deal with makeup looking too shiny in portraits? How do I achieve that smooth look (either through lighting or makeup tip)

thanks!


The main issue is more of a makeup than actual light.
If the concealer is too shiny, it could be either too bright compared to the other foundation makeup and the skin tone, or it might be of the wrong type.
If the foundation under it has too much moisturiser for example, it will pop up under studio light.

Also it might be too much concealer, trying to hide spots or wrinkles. Putting it too heavily will make it too bright as well.

Best way is to look at your model face in bright light before you start. Look at the common things, like nose, eyes, lashes, pimples being hidden etc. To see if you can find any issues with something too bright or too dark.
Let your makeup artist (or if your model did the makeup), try and fix the issue before you start.

If all other fails, fix it in post.



Feb 12, 2015 at 04:15 AM
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p.1 #5 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


I'm no makeup artist but I think that type of concealer needs powder over it.

Can you post an example?



Feb 12, 2015 at 06:59 PM
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p.1 #6 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


Bear in mind that AI = AR doesn't fly out the window just because you're dealing with makeup.

If you/the subject/your MUA can't mattify things (e.g. with loose powder) to your satisfaction, move something.

Makeup isn't magic. It obeys the laws of physics like everything else.



Feb 12, 2015 at 07:23 PM
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p.1 #7 · Lighting and under-eye makeup


Although photography is my main activity, I dare say I have quite proficient experience with make up.
Had a former model/girlfriend who taught me the finer tricks of the trade after I first had followed a make up training just to be able to communicate with some kind of insight with make up artists.

http://www.pbase.com/paul_k/image/61044458

http://www.pbase.com/paul_k/image/61052702

http://www.pbase.com/paul_k/image/121732318

Consequently when I go to a shoot still have a well filled make up case (worth about the same as a Nikon D750, European price level )with me along with my photography bags, just in case the make up artist does not show up, or isn't up to the required level .
So I think shiny make up/concealer simply is what it is, shiny, nothing to do with IR, or light diffraction (and therefor basically a mistake by the make up artist if it's not corrected before the shoot).

To make it more comprehensive to the probably overall male audience best compare it painting with a car.

A concealer as a rule is thicker then normal foundation.
It basically has the same function on a skin as the primer on a car that has to conceal any imperfections prior to applying the final layer(s) of paint the car is to about to get.
And to be able to do so, it's often applied in a fat/grease based form, where the 'normal' foundation usually is water based. Consequently there's a risk it will 'shine' if no matting powder is applied.

Note that sometimes powder with some (usually very subtle) glitters in it can be applied by the make up artist exactly to create a high lite, but that normally would be on the cheekbones, eyelids and the likes, or in the form of a gel/lipstick on the lips.




Feb 13, 2015 at 10:27 AM





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