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p.1 #1 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

As a direct result of John Power's thread (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/633006/0) and the amount of differing suggestions and opinions I felt inclined to acquire some solid numbers to account for a single most important upgrade (among FM'ers) for the much anticipated '5DII'. Assume that each option works as it should and to the best of its ability. Also, the above options were derived directly from John's post so don't yell at me for posting 'In body IS'

-Matt

Apr 04, 2008 at 09:53 PM

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p.1 #2 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

Interesting selection, but a few have absolutely no chance of appearing IMO. In particular the 1-series AF (tho canon might go for a 20+ point AF), the larger size (current size is a + selling point) and (of course) the in-body IS!

Personally I'd just like better AF. Even 23-point AF with 9 cross-type sensors would be a vast improvement. Everything else would be icing.

Apr 04, 2008 at 10:02 PM

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p.1 #3 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

I voted 1 series AF - although ~25 would be cool

Apr 04, 2008 at 10:03 PM

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p.1 #4 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

If you would like better AF then select 1-Series AF (I wasn't going to put 'better AF'; just seemed a little too broad). This is just based upon imagination...logical imagination that is. As for the others I TOLD YOU NOT TO YELL AT ME!!!

They were derived from John's post...just bear with me here!

-Matt

Apr 04, 2008 at 10:06 PM

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p.1 #5 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

NO question about it - a stop or more of high-ISO improvement. I don't mean just adding ISO 6400+ with excessive noise reduction - I mean clean high-ISO capability.

Apr 04, 2008 at 10:54 PM

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p.1 #6 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

Price.

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:04 PM

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p.1 #7 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

I'd love to see eye-controlled focus. I've had it in my EOS-3 and my Elan 7Ne for years and I really hated to give that up to go digital. I was originally skeptical about ECF until I used it, but man-oh-man did it spoil me. Canon really should offer it in at least one digital body.

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:26 PM

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p.1 #8 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

A "programmable" button for EC. Not necessarily an added button.

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:26 PM

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p.1 #9 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

A "programmable" button for EC. Not necessarily an added button.

(Hey who was the other yeah vote on this

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Apr 04, 2008 at 11:27 PM

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p.1 #10 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

I need an 'all of the above' choice.

Edited on Apr 04, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:28 PM

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p.1 #11 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

I voted for auto ISO because that one was the only closest to reality. That, and live view.

Edited on Apr 04, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:39 PM

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p.1 #12 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

ward1066 wrote:
I voted for auto ISO because that one was the only closest to reality.

And how is that so? Most of the options are feasible.

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:41 PM

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p.1 #13 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

Hoping to see a few changes since the technology is there:

Higher fps (I'd be happy with 5, hated 3) This is the biggest reason I sold my old one.
Higher/cleaner ISO (If they can do it with the 1DmkIII, they could sure kick it up a notch with a new 5)
AF (af can always improve)

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:45 PM

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p.1 #14 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

While I don't necessarily want 1 series AF, I do want and need more off center cross sensors. Second on my list is weather sealing.

Apr 04, 2008 at 11:53 PM

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p.1 #15 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

How hard would it be to put a 1d2 AF (now outdated...but fully tested, designed, and paid for by canon) into the 5d?

If Canon wants to come out in full force that IS what they need to do...along with 16 mp's.

Apr 05, 2008 at 12:01 AM

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p.1 #16 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

M Vers wrote:
ward1066 wrote:
I voted for auto ISO because that one was the only closest to reality.

And how is that so? Most of the options are feasible.

dual processors in a prosumer body, I dont think so. Albeit, i think thay can improve some over present AF. 5D lowlight Af bites.

Edited by ward1066 on Apr 04, 2008 at 07:14 PM GMT

Edited on Apr 05, 2008 at 01:14 AM

Apr 05, 2008 at 01:11 AM

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p.1 #17 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

For all those who vote "1-Series AF":

I vote: "Buy a 1-Series"

Apr 05, 2008 at 01:14 AM

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p.1 #18 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

ward1066 wrote:
M Vers wrote:
ward1066 wrote:
I voted for auto ISO because that one was the only closest to reality.

And how is that so? Most of the options are feasible.

dual processors in a prosumer body, I dont think so. Albeit, i think thay can improve some over present AF. 5D lowlight Af bites.
Edited by ward1066 on Apr 04, 2008 at 07:14 PM GMT

Ok and what about all of the others? Digic III...impossible? Weather Sealing...impossible? Dust removal....impossible? 5/6 FPS...auto ISO...impossible? Thats nonsense. Ill give you a few, but again I only posted what I saw in the other thread. Anyhow, I am sure they can stretch damn close to 1-Series AF (lets say around 25-30 cross-type AF points) into a new body...particularly when you look at technological advances/competition and depending on how much Canon is shooting for as fas as MSRP. I wouldn't count it out.

Edited by M Vers on Apr 04, 2008 at 08:22 PM GMT

Edited on Apr 05, 2008 at 01:22 AM

Apr 05, 2008 at 01:18 AM

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p.1 #19 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

The main thing is that the name 5D MK II is terrible. Canon should revamp their numbering system to follow a logical sequence or at least use less digits.

EB

Apr 05, 2008 at 01:20 AM

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p.1 #20 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

M Vers wrote:
ward1066 wrote:
M Vers wrote:
ward1066 wrote:
I voted for auto ISO because that one was the only closest to reality.

And how is that so? Most of the options are feasible.

dual processors in a prosumer body, I dont think so. Albeit, i think thay can improve some over present AF. 5D lowlight Af bites.
Edited by ward1066 on Apr 04, 2008 at 07:14 PM GMT

Ok and what about all of the others? Digic III...impossible? Weather Sealing...impossible? Dust removal....impossible? 5/6 FPS...auto ISO...impossible? Thats nonsense. Ill give you a few, but again I only posted what I saw in the other thread. Anyhow, I am sure they can stretch damn close to 1-Series AF (lets say around 25-30 cross-type AF points) into a new body...particularly when you look at technological advances/competition and depending on how much Canon is shooting for as fas as MSRP. I wouldn't count it out.

Edited by M Vers on Apr 04, 2008 at 08:22 PM GMT

sounds like your wishing for a 1ds3

Apr 05, 2008 at 02:33 AM

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p.1 #21 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

Don't want the weight of a 1d..

So please explain to me with the advancements in processor technology why a autofocus system introduced (to digital bodies) in 2001 cannot be integrated with a modern camera (of any size).

Apr 05, 2008 at 02:53 AM

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p.1 #22 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

EB-1 wrote:
The main thing is that the name 5D MK II is terrible. Canon should revamp their numbering system to follow a logical sequence or at least use less digits.

EB

I quite like the "5D Mk II" moniker!

Apr 05, 2008 at 03:59 AM

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p.1 #23 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

Could you add improved direct print button. I'm pretty sure that would boost sales.

Apr 05, 2008 at 06:19 AM

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godfather wrote:
How hard would it be to put a 1d2 AF (now outdated...but fully tested, designed, and paid for by canon) into the 5d?

But then the 5d2 would have better AF than the 1D3

Apr 05, 2008 at 07:19 AM

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p.1 #25 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll

godfather wrote:
Don't want the weight of a 1d..

So please explain to me with the advancements in processor technology why a autofocus system introduced (to digital bodies) in 2001 cannot be integrated with a modern camera (of any size).

Because Canon is in the business of distinguishing between bodies by withholding features.

Apr 05, 2008 at 11:22 AM


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