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Tim ONeill
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p.1 #1 · Frozen Fenceline


Opinions requested on this one. I have 2 takes of the same scene. The first processed in typical black and white. The second one I used more contrast to bring out more detail in the snow, resulting in a darker moodier shot. I'd appreciate opinions on which is more appealing.
http://i.pbase.com/o3/99/15999/1/107902938.1XYZCpnO.frozenfencelineblackandwhite.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o3/99/15999/1/107889925.oSLfM1QR.A_S_ONeillT_frozenfencline.jpg



Jan 07, 2009 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #2 · Frozen Fenceline


Mark me down for voting for the first one. For whatever reason, the brightness makes it seem sharper, which is what I prefer for this shot. Also, the second one has a much more noticeable blue hue, especially at the bottom right. Top one shows off the snow on the trees better as well.


Jan 07, 2009 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #3 · Frozen Fenceline


Tim,
I hate to disagree with T-bone (not really ).
But I prefer the second one (with the color tinge removed). I'm a registered contrast freak, though, so what do I know?
Charlie



Jan 07, 2009 at 08:29 PM
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p.1 #4 · Frozen Fenceline


Charlie Shugart wrote:
Tim,
I hate to disagree with T-bone (not really ).
But I prefer the second one (with the color tinge removed). I'm a registered contrast freak, though, so what do I know?
Charlie

Why do you want to hurt me, Charlie?
Ha-ha!
As you were...



Jan 07, 2009 at 08:36 PM
Tim ONeill
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p.1 #5 · Frozen Fenceline


Thanks guys. Seems like the toning isn't exactly a hit. It is very hard for me to process snow. Relocating from southern Cal puts me behind the curve a bit.


Jan 07, 2009 at 10:31 PM
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p.1 #6 · Frozen Fenceline


Tim,
I like both of the images but am leaning a bit toward the BW image. I think it works much better than the color version.



Jan 08, 2009 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #7 · Frozen Fenceline


Nice work here. I like #1, though the perspective brings my eye to the opening between the trees more than the fence. In the second, the fence is definitely the primary element and the opening is dark enough that it no longer attracts my attention. Either image would make a nice print.


Jan 09, 2009 at 12:52 AM
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p.1 #8 · Frozen Fenceline


I go with the BW as well


Jan 09, 2009 at 06:45 AM
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p.1 #9 · Frozen Fenceline


Tim, B&W for me (of course). for the snow, you might try the Charlie Crammer selection technique (on Luminous Landscape). in this manner you would isolate the snow in the foreground and deal with it alone.
I like the composition and fence
regards, tom



Jan 09, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Tim ONeill
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p.1 #10 · Frozen Fenceline


Thanks guys. Tom, thanks for the suggestion about the Charlie Cramer technique. I bookmarked it.


Jan 09, 2009 at 04:09 PM
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p.1 #11 · Frozen Fenceline


Sign me up for #2




Jan 09, 2009 at 05:46 PM
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p.1 #12 · Frozen Fenceline


Tim - when I tried to find Charlie's technique on Luminous Landscape, I could not find it. did you actually find it? where?
many thanks, tom



Jan 09, 2009 at 06:36 PM
Tim ONeill
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p.1 #13 · Frozen Fenceline


Tom
I found it and sent it to you in a PM. If anyone else wants to read it, here it is. Luminous Landscape has no real search function that I could find.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/Cramer_Selections.shtml



Jan 09, 2009 at 07:10 PM
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p.1 #14 · Frozen Fenceline


The fist is wonderful. Snow is difficult for me too. I get one chance in 100 yrs here in South Texas!


Jan 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM





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