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p.1 #1 · night time shots - tripod spec.


this is posted in city life/stills too, because i specifically wanted opinions from in there, however, itmight be a slow building thing and i'm interested in making this purchase tomorrow and perhaps having shipped in for the weekend ...

gm



i have come to the crossroads and plan to take the wise path and buy a tripod so that i can shoot at night in the city and at the water ... i fought the good fight, bought a 24 and 85L, famously sharp lenses w/ IS, etc - but it has become inevitable that i must buy a
tripod and embrace true sharpness and maybe a dragged shutter for the first time ...

i think perhaps the best tripod for birding or setting up in a field or on a mountain is not necessarily the most applicable for setting up quickly and having a smallish footprint and probably a zillion other things I haven't experienced or been irritated by yet ...

I'm seriously averse to lugging around a lot of gear, so, can anyone recommend a tripod/head that would be primarily well thought out in terms of how collapsible it is and have also that it have a smallish footprint when open - where i think a large one would interfere w/ pedestrian people etc ... it would never need to support more than a prosumer body (40D, 5D) w/ a medium weight tele (300/F4, 400/5.6 etc) and perhaps a flash/bracket ...

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated ...

gm


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Nov 14, 2007 at 05:30 AM
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Hi Grant,

You don't state a budget, so I will suggest a top-notch but expensive setup--a Gitzo 2 series tripod for your use. That would be either the 2540 or 2530 and one of the top notch smaller size ballheads. These include the Really Right Stuff BH40, the Markins M10, the Kirk BH-3, the Acratech V2, or the Arca Swiss Z1. These ballheads all use the Arca Swiss standard compatible clamps and if you get an L-bracket will let you setup the tripod and take it down and change from landscape to portrait very quickly. I hope this helps.

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Nov 14, 2007 at 05:41 AM
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I knew when I specified light and compact I was certainly categorizing it in the highish price bracket ... it's ok, i've kind of realized how integral the tripod is to taking good pictures ... I will have to spend well on it to increase the likelihood that I actually carry it ... I'll check that stuff out from work in a bit ...

thanks,
gm

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Nov 14, 2007 at 12:19 PM
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Grant,

After reasearching for several weeks which tripod head combination would work best for my needs, I selected the Gitzo GT2530 and RRS BH-55. My equipment requirements is similar to yours but I selected the BH-55 over the BH-40 because my old, sturdy and heavy tripod requires the larger diameter base of the BH-55 and some day I may purchase a 300 f/2.8 or 500 f/4.

The quality and functionality of the Gitzo tripod and Really Right Stuff plates and head meets my expectations.



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Nov 14, 2007 at 02:08 PM
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Itīs hard to go wrong with a Gitzo tripod. In addition to functionality it should also be mentioned that they withhold good durability. Nothing worse than a tripod breaking down when the sun sets.

You might also want to look into Sachtler. Their 75mm bowl series is fairly suitable for hiking due to their slim design and yet they can hold pretty much anything in the still camera department (20kg). Also very easy to clean due to their open mechanism.

I suppose any of the above mentioned ballheads are good choices, i use a Arca Swiss Z1, very happy with it so far.

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Nov 14, 2007 at 02:29 PM
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While you probably don't need the sheer capacity needed to deal with the heaviest lenses and head rigs used in nature and birding, etc., the possibility exists that at some point you may decide to move into fancier panoramic gear. This could push into the heavier gear realms as well. However, if you don't look at that as an immediate possibility, a lighter tripod may do OK.

But, night shots can be longer exposures so resistance to wind pressures, vibration damping remains important. 4 section tripods collapse more compactly for carting about, they add some added fussiness in that you end up with more secitions to deal within clamping/unclamping. So perhaps you'd find them somewhat slower.

"Footprint?" Unfortunately I don't think you'll find a lot of difference in space taken up by different tripods. The default angle is generally the same within a brand and I'd expect pretty much the same across brands. If you narrow the angle, you reduce stability, if you widen the angle and/or reduce extension and try to make it up with the center column, you increase vibration problems.

So, if you should decide to go with Gitzo, pretty much all of them would have the same footprint at the same height. Aluminum would be least expensive, heavier and more prone to vibration than basalt/lava then carbon fiber. The same would generally hold true across the Bogen or Giottos selections as well (and I'd expect so of the brands I haven't seen as much of).

With landscapes and panoramas, use of leveling heads or similar devices can make it easier to keep horizons level or to make stitches easier.

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Nov 15, 2007 at 01:52 AM
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p.1 #7 · night time shots - tripod spec.


craig ... thank you for the advice ...

I was looking at the bogen 055MF4 legs and either a ) 3437 3D Mag head or a B) 3275 (410) compact geared head ... or perhaps just a good/light ball grip ...

the 4 section spec is kind of important to me, i really do want to reduce the size when compacted ...

i agree on the leveling aspects, and probably should consider that seriously since this is being purchased to works synergistically w/ a 24 TS ...

thanks to all participating,
gm

ps - i really don't want to feel like i should have gotten a different one weeks after i get one, which doesn't bother me as much w/ glass which is easier to ship adn retains value quite well ...

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Nov 15, 2007 at 02:56 AM
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load ratings are largely useless except as a figure of merit of stability between models made by the same mfg.

J.

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Nov 16, 2007 at 01:21 AM
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For fast set-up, it's hard to beat the fliplocks on the Bogen/Manfrotto 'pods. As for "small footprint", that would not be a tripod. If you have to have a tripod set up in a crowded location, you have to actively protect it. The Bogen/Manfrotto 'pods are a little easier to knock over than my Gitzo 2530 EX because the legs are not locked in position--just limited for spread. If someone bumps up against the 'pod, the leg on the opposite side will want to fold in, catapulting camera and lens to the ground. The same thing happens if you try to scoot the tripod a little for composition. The EX series from Gitzo has legs that lock firmly in place, thus being a little more resistant to the big plunge. Unfortunately, the EX series are also a little bit less stable due to the off-axis mounting of the column, and you very likely don't need the tit-swing column for the kind of work you describe.

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Nov 16, 2007 at 06:17 PM
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Timm- thanks for the input ... I've pretty much narrowed it down to the Gitzo's and the Bogen/M's and might be somewhat driven by the marketplace when it comes to the final decision ... I'm not tall (5'8") and so the height factor isn't quite as big a deal as it for the 6'+ crowd ... I'm not into hiking, and this will be primarily used in "urban landscapes" ... compactness is probably slightly more important to me than weight, while I'm definitely going CF regardless so weight will be light-ish no matter which company I choose ... Once things have to slow down to the point where the tripod is getting setup, i seriously doubt the minor differences in lock types for the legs will be a make it or break it for me ... I would think sturdiness and stability and being able to make small adjustments easily will be the most important aspects of the tripod/head for my application ... I think I want to have a built-in level surely, and am considering the geared head as opposed to a freely rotating ball etc ...

Thank you to al for the continuing info, each new suggestion helps me narrow the field further ... I kind of enjoy touching a lot of glass, but I am hoping to make the decision on a tripod that i know is the best one for me the first try ...

gm

Nov 16, 2007 at 06:25 PM

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